whats ya frame preference alloy or steel

[bikemeister2000]

Keep it real, keep it steel.

Oh, and cut out the squabbling or I'll take your toys away

 

[taffy]

Steel.

Ally while good - very good in a lot of cases/bikes doesn't have that alive feel of steel. And in my case certainly steel is more forgiving when i make a mistake or hit a rutted frozen ice coated bridleway all wrong ><.

 

[dyna-ti]

Re: alu and steel and fatigue

Hi Dyna

"Sorry but i find this meaningless in respect of the issue at hand" - yes maybe, but when such sweeping (and incorrect statements) such as

"alloys crack with age" and "Not true for steel or titanium - a frame made from either will last for ever unless one of two things happen;

-it's stressed beyind its ultimate tensile strength (crash or bash).
-it rusts. "

I thought I would look into the fatigue issue and find out the facts.

I've 6 bikes - 3 re steel and 3 are alloy /carbon. So I am not prejudiced either way. Ive had crap steel frames and crap alloy ones.

What I do think though is that The Orange Evo2 is a great frame and performs a variety of duties really well and quite honestly is the most versatile bike that i have used - anything from singletrack, nasty rock strewn downhill in lake district, coast to coast and daily commuting. If I had to settle for one bike out of the six - it would be the Orange.

To dismiss a bike solely because it's not steel in my opinion could be a bad choice. As olddave said "IMO/E frame material per se has next to nowt to do with "comfort". Geometry, fit, tyres, contact points etc etc all of much more relevance."

I would choose the EVO2 because from my experience it makes a great bike.

I meant that it appeared you were changing the parameters to suit :?
No offense intended

 

[samc]

sounds like everyone agrees. People are being pedantic about specific materials jargon, but the consensus is clear.

Aluminium it is!

 

[cuddlytel]

what fits

Steel Bontys, all Alloy and alloy/carbon Kleins in my stable and love them all. contact points and geometry make more difference than the material but I ride the Klein the most because it's got mudguards on.

 

[al]

This is my simple to understand list of frame materials.....


Steel = good

Alluminuminium = bad

ti = only if all the steel in the world has ran out.

Carbon = more bad than Alluminumnium.

Wood = bad, but not as bad as Alluminuminium.

I hope this helps.

al.

 

[Tad]

What about bamboo al?

[pedant] as it's a grass not a tree so can't be classified as wood[/pedant]

 

[al]

What about bamboo al?

[pedant] as it's a grass not a tree so can't be classified as wood[/pedant]

Thank you.

Bamboo = bad, but only 6.37% as bad as Alluminuminium.

al.

 

[FluffyChicken]

What about bamboo al?

[pedant] as it's a grass not a tree so can't be classified as wood[/pedant]

Not just a pedant, if you did call it a wood just because they are 'plants' then that would be like classing Aluminium Alloy as a Steel because they are metals.
It contains no 'wood' in it.
:xmas-wink:

 

[al]

What about bamboo al?

[pedant] as it's a grass not a tree so can't be classified as wood[/pedant]

Not just a pedant, if you did call it a wood just because they are 'plants' then that would be like classing Aluminium Alloy as a Steel because they are metals.
It contains no 'wood' in it.
:xmas-wink:

You're just trying to confuse people now!


I'll stop now, honest.


al.