What was your "retro epiphany"

Just over a year ago I found this place whilst trying to find parts for my old Cannondale. Had been away from bikes for over ten years after a car accident but decided to try and lose a few pounds and get out riding again.
I was mad into bikes in the late 80's early 90's and couldn't beleive the stuff on here- so many memories and old desires came flooding back. I wasn't even aware of a retro scene and had no idea how much bikes had come on at the other end of the scale- I still thought a 20 year old Cannondale was the mutts nuts.
This website has caused much bother over the last year!
 
"On 6/26/05, John Valins < john.xxxxxxx@SECRET-EMAIL.com > wrote:

Mike,

I'll stick the pics on mtbr retro and fatcogs. Wasn't going to put it on stw anyhow, they're all philistines over there.

UK retro website and forum is actually a good idea. Might set one up this week if I get round to it. It'll help me procrastinate doing my CV a bit longer :-D

cheers

John"
(& yes john, i'm surprised I still have that mail too..)

I'd agree with John, the SSMM retro meet was deffo a turning point, realisation that more than myself, webby, peteMcC, neil/badger, grant, JV, jez, zecklim (anyone heard from him recently?) in the UK were interested in "retrobikes". they were already well established via mtb-classic & mtbr.com VRC had recently kicked off, but until that SSMM meet I guess none of us had realised how many people in the UK could be interested.

The most amusing part of that SSMM meet was when we started inadvertently poaching people from the sideways cycles tent to come & look at 15year old bikes instead of the new stuff... ...Tim@sideways cycles came out to see where all his potential customers were going :D :LOL: :LOL:

I guess i've had a few personal epiphanies. walking into cambriabikes shop (in cambria) in 99 to see how much brand new NOS stuff could be picked up mega cheap <turned into an expensive day overall>.
2003 when I opened the boot of my car to show curly the lavender Yo eddy that I bought purely as I liked it & had no intention of ever riding.
.. more recently with the merlin tomac & a few other projects by how much i've been prepared to pay for stuff I never dreamt I'd own. getting the "winning the lottery feeling" for owning a 16yr old is a confirmed sign of being a retro geek right? :roll: :cool:
 
How'd I get here?... Simple...I never left! I just never adapted to the black spokes,wheels,hubs,post,bars,stem thing that took hold of the cycling world a while back. So when everyone else sort of moved on and got all sweaty for crap like FSR Stumpjumpers and Trek Fuels and Fisher Sugars, and Santa Cruz blahblahblah, and junk like that, I simply kept my old bikes going with massive stocks of stuff aquired though years working in shops. Eventually the bike geek that I bacame when the industry left me behind at some point came back into vogue and suddenly there were websites with thousands of pictures of parts that I either currently owned, or owned at one time, or knew somebody who owned, etc...and hundreds of people who felt about the old stuff the same way I did.

Important also, is that I never got all hot and sweaty for the Cunningham/Potts/Ritchey stuff and all the crap about who did or didn't invent the mountain bike. All that industry garbage just seems so contrived, and you never seem to hear Potts, or Cunningham or Ritchey tell stories about how they specifically were the beginning of some international movement (OK, so Fisher has probably hung that shingle on himself a few hundred times, but not the other fellas!) they just mostly tell stories about how their scene began and the cool vibe that they enjoyed during their early years on the trail. I'm not saying that those guys didn't have a primary role in the rise of the popularity of the sport, culminating in what I consider the true heyday of the industry in the late 80's and early 90s, or that they didn't come up with some bad-ass component designs, but really...Like they were the first people to ride/build a trail specific bike out of the best technology and materials available to them at the time?! Please! What does the Swiss military say about that?! :D My MOM used to side her single speed military surplus cruiser, modified by my grandfather for her recreational use, on walking trails around Washington DC during WWII, years before Cunningham could walk! I'm not implying that Retrobike isn't into that stuff, but there is a distinct bias toward that California scene over at MTBR-VRC, whereas Retrobike is more in line with the era following on the heels.

Anyway, so I was glad that finally, here at Retrobike especially, there was a group of folks that recognized the merits of the post Cunningham et al, pre Cannondale Head Shok era! In all seriousness...the Mountainbike glory days for me is about 1988 until 1995-6. The Purchase of Klein by Trek was my darkest day, not for the love of Klein, but for the loathing of the corporatizing of the industry that the purchase represented... :cry: Shimano painted XT and XTR derailleurs and cranks and just about everything, rather than just finish the material correctly in the first place, Avid essentially unplugged the CNC mill and started pot-casting everything overseas, Cook Bros went back to machining coffee filters or whatever the hell Witmer is making money at these days, Every bike company turned its back on USA made steel and adopted basically the same Taiwan built Aluminum frame with 50 year old Schwinn bullet-style graphics as their flagship (and then didn't even have the decency to lower the price!), and I knew I was done. Retro or nothing. Deore DX, SDG and Altek for ever, thank you very much!

So I never got reintroduced to Retro, per se. Rather, you other interlopers just discovered me. :p

And now you're driving up the cost of my eBay auctions! :LOL: :LOL:
 
The thumbshifter. Cheap as chips, 7+8 speed, reliable, nightride-able, one moving part, friction mode for cock ups, light. Job's a good 'un!
 
Agency_Scum":12f9npov said:
The thumbshifter. Cheap as chips, 7+8 speed, reliable, nightride-able, one moving part, friction mode for cock ups, light. Job's a good 'un!

YES! Discontinuing the thumbie in what...1995? Another step in the wrong direction for the MTB world! Good call!
 
I never had an epiphany as such...

My bikes just got older. I kept on using them. And I didn't want to put modern kit on them for reasons of aesthetics, personal taste and a belief that an old tatty looking bike was less likely to get nicked, a belief which actually held true. I've never had a bike stolen in this country.

The search for parts for said bikes, at some point led me in here....

Only "projects" I've ever had were the Gios and the Alan. The Gios was bought to be a fixed wheel conversion but was too damn nice to do that to. The Alan - that was just a bike I always wanted.

In no way do I have any dogma about retro. I have modern road,cross and mountain bikes too.
 
my old kona needed work (and money) to make it sweet again. i decided to sell it and buy something up to date. so i did and imediately regretted 2 thinks. firstly losing and old friend and 2 buying a kona kikapu.

so i bought my old bike back and decided to turn it into my dream build from my youth, totally unaware there was a movement dedicated to this. i honestly thought i was doing it alone! i found the retrokona site and thought it was cool but the lack of info again made me think i was pretty much alone.

as others have said, i found this site when someone name dropped it on an ebay listing
 
Some great stories on this thread :cool:


scant":1f0odh2v said:
"On 6/26/05, John Valins < john.xxxxxxx@SECRET-EMAIL.com > wrote:

Mike,

I'll stick the pics on mtbr retro and fatcogs. Wasn't going to put it on stw anyhow, they're all philistines over there.

UK retro website and forum is actually a good idea. Might set one up this week if I get round to it. It'll help me procrastinate doing my CV a bit longer :-D

cheers

John"
(& yes john, i'm surprised I still have that mail too..)


Yeah, remember that email :LOL:
 
i guess i sort of moved with the times mtb-wise, went from riding xc to d/h and then onto jump/street stuff but then about 2 years ago started thinking about all the bikes i had bitd, and the way i used to ride. i found this site after buying a 1994 kona lavadome and taking it to afan during xmas (2006?) i remember getting back to my g/f's 'rent's place in swansea and just spending the afternoon on the 'net looking for stuff about old bikes and found this site.... took me a year or so to join up but here i am now and it's ace :D
 
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