What is the best groupset over the past 25 years (1998-2023) in your opinion?

[Kempes]

Carbon was lighter, not that it matters that much at my age now! Take your choice ref derailleurs, ergo levers and chainsets. Only silver alloy Centaur brake calipers were offered (the Pinarello Banesto features Record Titanium),

Can I also put a vote in for Centaur (and veloce!), I think it’s underrated compared to chorus / record, I love the 10 speed shifters with compact aluminium cranks

 

[fguki]

To me the SHIMANO Ultegra 6800 is up front! Its fairly cheap, looks awesome and works superb!

 

[jamesdak]

Record 10 speed for me. Perfection.

Yep, without a doubt!!

 

[pigman]

To me the SHIMANO Ultegra 6800 is up front! Its fairly cheap, looks awesome and works superb!

With or without the crank failures?

 

[fguki]

Never heard of them so far

 

[somersetbikerider]

Campagnolo Record 10 speed

 

[bikeworkshop]

Never heard of them so far

Product recall issued 2023.
I'd already seen enough come apart to avoid buying or selling them.

 

[fguki]

How did that happen? Was that a "common" failure? Do you have any proof or documents about it? If that was a common failure of that groupset, I am very sure there is plenty of documents, threads or info about it out there.

Or was that some african lorry that blew over some random biker in Spain or a sledgehammer that demolished the bike and a pic was taken to make some weird story about alleged failing 6800 Ultegra cranks?

 

[ChromeChainstay]

How did that happen? Was that a "common" failure? Do you have any proof or documents about it? If that was a common failure of that groupset, I am very sure there is plenty of documents, threads or info about it out there.

Or was that some african lorry that blew over some random biker in Spain or a sledgehammer that demolished the bike and a pic was taken to make some weird story about alleged failing 6800 Ultegra cranks?

it is documented by Shimano r8000 crankset recall and replacement info on the net

 

[bikeworkshop]

How did that happen? Was that a "common" failure? Do you have any proof or documents about it? If that was a common failure of that groupset, I am very sure there is plenty of documents, threads or info about it out there.

Or was that some african lorry that blew over some random biker in Spain or a sledgehammer that demolished the bike and a pic was taken to make some weird story about alleged failing 6800 Ultegra cranks?

Just in case your Google isn't working:
https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2023/Shimano-Recalls-Cranksets-for-Bicycles-Due-to-Crash-Hazard

The ones I saw broke in normal use.