Wester Ross #192

[Jamiedyer]

This frame I picked up before Christmas last for my son Caleb who was 13 at the time.
He has really shot up as well as grown up the last couple of years to the point he is as tall as myself and had a few rides on my various retro rides and so I thought this would be a good thing for us to build together with him learning to do each bit of the build as we go. He already knows his way around the older steel bikes but this would be his, not one of mine, for him.
I also gave him a full Arabesque groupset, set of Mavic wheels, bars etc. Everything he should need and what we didn't have, or I didn't have we would source no problem.
So it sat waiting for him from Christmas through to the summer when it was toyed with a few times and due to being busy and Caleb riding my Jack Taylor as well as my Surly Pugsley over the spring/summer, he was in no great rush to build. He said he wanted to wait until he wasn't going to be rushed as it wasn't going anywhere so no rush.
Now, to the frame. It is # 192 built early in 1981 in Altbea just south of us here in Scotland. It is 49.5cm touring geometry.
I purchased the frame just before last Christmas for a very low price, and while it is solid and looks good, it does unfortunately have a very thick powder coat hiding a lot of that Wester Ross fine detail that we know is below.
We have sorted the wheels, seatpost, changed chainset, shifters, brakes a couple of times due to various little issues but are close to getting it ready to cable it up and test ride it.
So the basic plan is to get it riding and rolling nicely before the winter, give it a nice shakedown ride on the west coast from Ullapool or Gairloch to ride to it's birthplace at Altbea. The building where it was built is now the Arctic Convoy museum which is also special to Caleb as his great grandfather was a big part of the convoys.
Hopefully this will happen quite soon with school holidays starting next week.
Once everything rides and runs right Calebs plan is to then get it stripped and then nicely painted in the winter.

Information on these Wester Ross builds are hard to come by and with me buying it from a shop, Isambards, who didn't have any history for it, it wasn't looking too good for getting much.
Then, slowly, over time, through a few sources but mainly through the Wester Ross Cycles facebook group we have gathered far more than we could have hoped for a few months back, where at the time, a post I made asking if anyone had any information, was ominously quiet.
Slowly details started to immerge, first from John Connell's daughter Louise, confirming our thoughts of the frame number showing it to be a Altbea built Wester Ross rather than a Yorkshire one and advising that Fergus Forsythe has been a clockmaker since and is now living in Australia, as does Louise. Ironic really with me being an Aussie living in Caithness not far from Altbea.
Then only on the weekend I got a message from Nic from the group, who is also in various other groups I am in and may well be in here in Retrobike, contacted me with the build sheets. He messaged them through, I will include here, along with the notes from the back. The date sheets had no date which was normal according to Nic, who said they were only occasionally marked with a date, either from a payment or where the person ordering the frame had received the form, usually in the post, noted any changes needed and then sent it back, would occasionally have the person ordering dating when they signed it. Though mine we can say early 1981, maybe earlier? as one that is 16 numbers after mine, #208 was confirmed built in Altbea and invoice in April 1981.
While the build page shows it was built for Jayne Tyrer, with discussion on the back of the form. I also found that it was originally black with red lining and decals would have been white, as they only offered black or white decals. Not the gold that we currently have on ours. Another interesting detail to come of this investigating is that the next frame #193 was built for Bernadette Tyrer with #129 long before being built for a Geoffrey Tyrer. Looks like this family really liked their Wester Ross's.
I will update this as we go along but after a slow start we seem to picking up steam.

Jamie

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Thick powder on this
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Hints of the nice lines beneath
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[old_coyote_pedaller]

Surprised there's been no replies, a nice looking bike. Very interesting story about frame and it's origins, its beginnings being not so far from home.
Can understand Caleb being proud of his great grandad, what those guys on the Arctic convoys did is seriously impressive.

 

[Jonny69]

I forgot to reply to this. The frame does indeed look nicely put together even though it’s well hidden under the powder coat! What rims and tyres have you got on there? I can see the tyres are 30mm wide and the rims look like a good fit with them.

 

[chickendrumsticks]

You're planning a repaint I see. Will ordinary grit blasting remove the powder coat do you think? It can be quite tough.

 

[Jamiedyer]

I forgot to reply to this. The frame does indeed look nicely put together even though it’s well hidden under the powder coat! What rims and tyres have you got on there? I can see the tyres are 30mm wide and the rims look like a good fit with them.

Hi Jonny
The rims are good old Mavic Ma2's with Jackie Brown 700c x 30mm. They ride really nicely on every terrain but are quite high volume. There is very little clearance under the brake bridge for a set of mudguards so will try a pair of 700c by 28 which will give a few more mm to clearance.
After a shakedown ride and sort last week and then a ride while we were in Aultbea with Caleb on the weekend I can definitely say it rides really sweetly.

Jamie

 

[Jamiedyer]

So a bit of progression with this build since the last post. Driven in equal measure by growing enthusiasm as the build progress's and also by the desire on both mine and Calebs to get it set up and back to Aultbea before the winter takes hold. This worry becoming a reality after the weather of the lasts few weeks.
Last week I managed to get most of the week off so I could spend some time at home with Caleb during the holidays. We swapped a few things around and while I managed to get it bolted together we cabled it all up together so he understood how each part worked and how everything worked together.
A mixture of parts but they all work well together and he is comfortable with them and enjoys riding it, drop bars and downtube shifters included, indexed at the rear 7 speed freewheel. Still some improvements to go like changing out the 700c x 30mm Jackie Brown tyres for a slightly smaller 28mm size as there is very little clearance under the brake bridge and this will give that little bit more and enough then to fit some Bluemels mudguards.
I managed a quick ride up and down the road on the Friday evening in the freshly starting rain to make sure it all worked and was safe before handing it off to Caleb. Lucky the rain was only light as it took me a while to get him in and off the bike. Initial thoughts were very happy and enthused for how nice it rode and how light it was etc.
The first real ride out and initial shakedown would come in the morning as the weather forecast said that Saturday would be a bit showery but with sunshine coming though here and there with the wind not too bad until the late afternoon. This was to be the best of the week so far with a storm hitting Saturday night through to Sunday/Monday.
So bikes loaded in the van ready for a 6 am drive to Dingwall, pick up Brian and then the three of us would drive back north to Aultbea, get a a decent ride in and then visit the Arctic Convoy Museum with lunch somewhere in there. The schedule would be determined by the weather, re rain. It was good to be on a mission to get Caleb and his Wester Ross back home for a visit to Aultbea, here on the north west coast of Scotland, where it was built 42 years ago.
The building it was built in is now the Arctic Convoy Museum, which is doubly fitting as Calebs great grandfather took part in many of the convoys during the Second World War. Of which he got more information about in the museum. A great museum and well worth the visit even without a connection.
It wasn't a huge ride out but a good few miles through town and then along the quieter coast road round the side of Loch Ewe. A great ride though and with the Wester Ross riding lovely you could see Caleb being quite proud of it and enjoying it so much. We were very lucky with the weather as we got a couple of light spots of rain on our way back to where we left the van but the ride before the museum and up to the museum was dry and even afterwards it was only right at the end when packing up that we had to hurry. It was dry for the time in the museum as well which must have been an hour or two. So considering the rain we had on the drive to and from Aultbea we were quite lucky as we even had sunshine throughout.
We had a late lunch at a local B&B before heading back north and across to Dingwall.
A great day out and certainly worth the drive and ride out in the wind and rain.

Jamie

Friday night ready to load in the van
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A bit of rain towards Loch Broom
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Still damp
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