Guinessisgoodforyou
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Not uncommon, lots of constructeurs made their own variation. I think the change would be fairly miserable and noisy
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Vintage French randonneuer's and porteurs.
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bikeworkshop
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Early compact chainset.
Change gear at the summit, and in the valley.
Probably while smoking a Gauloise.
I know that in the 40s, aluminium fatigue cycles were not fully understood*, but in the 21st century, this looks like an obvious problem:
I don't think I'd take this out for a ride of more than a few km now, certainly not on the pavé!
@Woz wha choo fink?
*aluminium was cheap after ww2 because of the quantity of military scrap becoming available, leading to a great deal of design innovation.
But you'd think aircraft maintenance would have showed up fatigue issues long before the dehaviland comet incidents.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Comet?wprov=sfla1
Change gear at the summit, and in the valley.
Probably while smoking a Gauloise.
I know that in the 40s, aluminium fatigue cycles were not fully understood*, but in the 21st century, this looks like an obvious problem:
I don't think I'd take this out for a ride of more than a few km now, certainly not on the pavé!
@Woz wha choo fink?
*aluminium was cheap after ww2 because of the quantity of military scrap becoming available, leading to a great deal of design innovation.
But you'd think aircraft maintenance would have showed up fatigue issues long before the dehaviland comet incidents.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Comet?wprov=sfla1
Guinessisgoodforyou
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Square corners
Edit we don't know how much drop out engagement is in the chain stay so you can't say. Especially as Marcadier was well known for his engineering knowledge.
Edit we don't know how much drop out engagement is in the chain stay so you can't say. Especially as Marcadier was well known for his engineering knowledge.
bikeworkshop
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Seems obvious now, but they had to sink the airliner in a massive pool of water and pressurise/ deinflate it hundreds of times to find out the problem!.
Some 90s aluminium frames had those round corners where the Chainstay and the seat stay were a single tube bent round - possibly trying to avoid a sharp corner in alloy?
Do Yeti break less than others?
Didn't peugeot do this too, early 90s, perhaps developing on their historical national experience of aluminium frame building?
Some 90s aluminium frames had those round corners where the Chainstay and the seat stay were a single tube bent round - possibly trying to avoid a sharp corner in alloy?
Do Yeti break less than others?
Didn't peugeot do this too, early 90s, perhaps developing on their historical national experience of aluminium frame building?
Guinessisgoodforyou
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Metal fatigue and sharp corners have been known as bad design since the late 1800s.
Guinessisgoodforyou
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1950s Terrot Dijon randonneur sold from steelvintage.com
For the record in case it is removed and we lose information about this bicycle. A very nice original example.
Terrot was a company which was founded in the 1880s in Dijon by Franco-German entrepreneur Charles Terrot of Stuttgart. They soon began a successful production of bicycles, motorbikes and automobiles. In fact the company became so successful that it for some time was the largest employer in Dijon. After the first world war, the production in France was seized by the French government and sold.
Starting anew in 1920, the bicycles became even more sportive and from the 1930s on Terrot produced excellent randonneur bicycles and racing machines. They even started to sponsor their own team which existed well into the 1950s. Among the riders were famous names the like of Jean Robic, Louis Aimar or Federico Bahamontes.
But besides the professional racing, the randonneur sport was always at the heart of French cycling. And at the same time when the Terrot team was victorious at Gent-Wevelgem, Liège-Bastogne-Liège or the Dauphiné, the know-how collected from the racing world was used to provide highly functional and fast touring bikes.
Unfortunately in 1958 the Terrot company was washed up in the competition of the 1950s and had to close its production which was then bought up by Peugeot.
So our 1950s Terrot Randonneur is a testament of a bygone era and a once famous brand that is nowadays just known to experts. What is nice is that it is still in original condition, so basically all the parts are period correct (aside from tires, grips, cables and chain).
The frame itself shows a classy beige hue with the pin-striping being still well visible. Simplex shifting, mudguards, lights, leather saddle, rack - it is all still there and forms a complete and excellent randonneur of the 1950s.
If you are looking for a bike which is both practical and extremely stylish, you won't have to look further than this beauty.
For the record in case it is removed and we lose information about this bicycle. A very nice original example.
Terrot was a company which was founded in the 1880s in Dijon by Franco-German entrepreneur Charles Terrot of Stuttgart. They soon began a successful production of bicycles, motorbikes and automobiles. In fact the company became so successful that it for some time was the largest employer in Dijon. After the first world war, the production in France was seized by the French government and sold.
Starting anew in 1920, the bicycles became even more sportive and from the 1930s on Terrot produced excellent randonneur bicycles and racing machines. They even started to sponsor their own team which existed well into the 1950s. Among the riders were famous names the like of Jean Robic, Louis Aimar or Federico Bahamontes.
But besides the professional racing, the randonneur sport was always at the heart of French cycling. And at the same time when the Terrot team was victorious at Gent-Wevelgem, Liège-Bastogne-Liège or the Dauphiné, the know-how collected from the racing world was used to provide highly functional and fast touring bikes.
Unfortunately in 1958 the Terrot company was washed up in the competition of the 1950s and had to close its production which was then bought up by Peugeot.
So our 1950s Terrot Randonneur is a testament of a bygone era and a once famous brand that is nowadays just known to experts. What is nice is that it is still in original condition, so basically all the parts are period correct (aside from tires, grips, cables and chain).
The frame itself shows a classy beige hue with the pin-striping being still well visible. Simplex shifting, mudguards, lights, leather saddle, rack - it is all still there and forms a complete and excellent randonneur of the 1950s.
If you are looking for a bike which is both practical and extremely stylish, you won't have to look further than this beauty.
Guinessisgoodforyou
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Peugeot Helium road bike sold from steelvintage.com
For the record in case it is removed and we lose information about this bicycle. Not high end but a very nice example.
For the record in case it is removed and we lose information about this bicycle. Not high end but a very nice example.
Guinessisgoodforyou
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Fin.
Guinessisgoodforyou
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1930s Automoto tour de France Velectrik sold from steelvintage.com
For the record in case it is removed and we lose information about this bicycle. High end and a nice example of a very unique bike.
Automoto is one of the many bike manufactures which grew in the French cradle of bicycle development, Saint-Étienne. Founded around 1900 they specialised in high class bicycles and soon grew as famous as the other big brands, Alcyon, Peugeot etc. Their racing bikes were particularly popular among professional and high class amateur cyclists alike.
Automoto sponsored a Team together with Hutchinson for quite some time and their bikes were ridden to victories by the most famous riders of their time.
In 1923, Henri Pélissier won the Tour de France on an Automoto with Ottavio Bottecchia coming in second on an Automoto, too. And Bottecchia went on to win the race the next two years with a bike from St. Étienne underneath him. To give a demonstration of their dominance, the team won again in 1926 with Lucien Buysse on an Automoto.
And it is no wonder that their top racing model was called after La Grande Boucle just like our example from 1930s.
Automoto bikes and particularly the racing models are exceedingly rare to find and when still in the original condition, it's a small miracle. And so we are proud to offer you this Automoto mod. Tour de France still in original deep green paint job and equipped with authentic parts.
Most of them are Automoto branded and that includes the beautiful crank set with the cloverleaf motives. What makes this very bike even more special is the shifting. It is a beautifully simple yet precise and very reliable Velctrik derailleur made by company B.G.A. from Saint-Étienne. In the 1930s, cables were considered by many as not trustworthy when it comes to vital bicycle parts and many manufacturers were still preferring rod operated mechanisms. Just like the Velectrik which uses a giant lever alongside the down tube. This lever is connected with the derailleur with two pulley wheels. Pulling the lever back drags the deraiileur forwars and the special slanting slot pushes it either inwards or outwards and thus changing gear. It is easy to operate, chain always has the right tension and the whole system is frankly bomb-proof.
A charming and authentic French bike of the highest category which is fun to ride and a pleasure to admire on a wall.
For the record in case it is removed and we lose information about this bicycle. High end and a nice example of a very unique bike.
Automoto is one of the many bike manufactures which grew in the French cradle of bicycle development, Saint-Étienne. Founded around 1900 they specialised in high class bicycles and soon grew as famous as the other big brands, Alcyon, Peugeot etc. Their racing bikes were particularly popular among professional and high class amateur cyclists alike.
Automoto sponsored a Team together with Hutchinson for quite some time and their bikes were ridden to victories by the most famous riders of their time.
In 1923, Henri Pélissier won the Tour de France on an Automoto with Ottavio Bottecchia coming in second on an Automoto, too. And Bottecchia went on to win the race the next two years with a bike from St. Étienne underneath him. To give a demonstration of their dominance, the team won again in 1926 with Lucien Buysse on an Automoto.
And it is no wonder that their top racing model was called after La Grande Boucle just like our example from 1930s.
Automoto bikes and particularly the racing models are exceedingly rare to find and when still in the original condition, it's a small miracle. And so we are proud to offer you this Automoto mod. Tour de France still in original deep green paint job and equipped with authentic parts.
Most of them are Automoto branded and that includes the beautiful crank set with the cloverleaf motives. What makes this very bike even more special is the shifting. It is a beautifully simple yet precise and very reliable Velctrik derailleur made by company B.G.A. from Saint-Étienne. In the 1930s, cables were considered by many as not trustworthy when it comes to vital bicycle parts and many manufacturers were still preferring rod operated mechanisms. Just like the Velectrik which uses a giant lever alongside the down tube. This lever is connected with the derailleur with two pulley wheels. Pulling the lever back drags the deraiileur forwars and the special slanting slot pushes it either inwards or outwards and thus changing gear. It is easy to operate, chain always has the right tension and the whole system is frankly bomb-proof.
A charming and authentic French bike of the highest category which is fun to ride and a pleasure to admire on a wall.
Guinessisgoodforyou
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Fin.
