Only sad thing about DeKerf's seems to me, is, that lovely paint job isn't adhered that well to the metal. You just have to look at it wrong on the missus's bike and it chips off. On her previous frame (I.F) it was epoxy coated and looked great nine years down the line. But the DeKerf is definately loosing it's skin in places. Real shame. But I suppose taht's paint in general really.