V - Brake evolution ? an unlikely original source

[Mickeyspinn]

Disc brakes too

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Top one is interesting I've not seen that way of doing it!
This is giving me ideas ....

 

[ferrus]

Keep feeding Mickey ideas!!

 

[Mickeyspinn]

Keep feeding Mickey ideas!!

Ha!
Not kidding you...something is brewing now for that old French mixte!

 

[Woz]

Going to get all nerdy now.....OK, so we all know nothing is new in cycling.....but

Isn't one major characteristic of V-brakes that the boss (fitting to the frame / forks) is lower than the brake pad.

A lot of the mega vintage stuff is not the same, the pivot point on the frame is roughly half way up the brake arms and
the brake pad on the lower portion. Like roller cams, U brakes, center-pulls etc. etc.

Would appreciate more photo's of that Honda, especially how the cable routing problem was solved.

Interesting the post of the Kestral too, KB from the moto-X world would have almost certainly got influenced from other domains.

 

[focomat 1c]

Isn't one major characteristic of V-brakes that the boss (fitting to the frame / forks) is lower than the brake pad.

Exactly ! With the exception of the Bontrager , all the other offerings are disqualified !!!!!!!!

The cable routing was achieved by 'clamping' the outer to the LH arm and the adjustable inner to the RH arm
but without the need for a noodle as there was plenty of room to give a generous curve to the cable
as it emerged horizontally from the brake arms on its way up to the RH brake lever . The cable was
also wrapped for protection in case it rubbed against the inside of the fairing as the bike was steered

I have a poor quality photo , but hope that joglo ( above ) can do better

 

[mk one]

Going to get all nerdy now.....OK, so we all know nothing is new in cycling.....but

Isn't one major characteristic of V-brakes that the boss (fitting to the frame / forks) is lower than the brake pad.

A lot of the mega vintage stuff is not the same, the pivot point on the frame is roughly half way up the brake arms and
the brake pad on the lower portion. Like roller cams, U brakes, center-pulls etc. etc.

Isn't the term 'V-brake' from shimano, referring to linear pull brakes which are named from the cable actuation and pull, not the pivots.

 

[Mickeyspinn]

I always figured the "v" is the line from centre of hub through pivot point to where cable connects? It's pretty much a perfect straight line!

 

[mk one]

I always figured the "v" is the line from centre of hub through pivot point to where cable connects? It's pretty much a perfect straight line!

It shouldn't be if the arms are straight up!

 

[benjabbi]

Could it just be V comes after U?

 

[Mickeyspinn]

It shouldn't be if the arms are straight up!

Get a straight edge and have a look,even with arms straight the point where cable clamps and where noodle pivots from then through pivots it forms a perfect v to centre of hub!
But I do prefer the simple explanation of v coming after u !
A "W" brake maybe?