mechagouki
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So I'm finding myself a little confused as to the meaning of the Ritchey Logic Super Tubing decals on a couple of my bikes, I know that this decal was commonly applied to tubesets selected my Ritchey but actually manufactured by Tange. What I don't understand is why very similar decals are used for different tubesets, or so I've been recently informed.
On my recently acquired Rocky Mountain, tentatively IDed as a 1990 Hammer, this decal appears:
I know Rocky Mountain and Ritchey had a long standing relationship, my 1986 "Ritchey" was actually made in Japan using a Ritchey tubeset and then sold in Canada by Rocky Mountain as part of a cross-border distribution deal. This decal differs from the usual Logic Super Tubing decal by the addition of the maple leaf and CANADA text.
This decal appears on my Ritchey P23:
You will note the "shield" area is near identical, the text reads exactly the same. Obviously there is no maple leaf, but there is a box below the shield with Tange's "Prestige' logo.
Now I know full well that the P23 is a Prestige frame, but I have been informed that the Hammer frame is not, and my confusion stems from the use of a near identical Tubeset identifier on both frames. Does "Ritchey Logic Super Tubing - by Tange" actually not really mean anything? Did they stick it on Tange 5, MTB, Infinity etc tubesets as well as Prestige? How could you ever tell?
I do notice that both frames have the flattened, ovalised lower seat tube which I thought was Prestige specific (based on Kona Kilauea / Explosif I have owned). Was the Prestige tubeset actually just the 3 main tubes, or were there Prestige stay tube options too?
On my recently acquired Rocky Mountain, tentatively IDed as a 1990 Hammer, this decal appears:
I know Rocky Mountain and Ritchey had a long standing relationship, my 1986 "Ritchey" was actually made in Japan using a Ritchey tubeset and then sold in Canada by Rocky Mountain as part of a cross-border distribution deal. This decal differs from the usual Logic Super Tubing decal by the addition of the maple leaf and CANADA text.
This decal appears on my Ritchey P23:
You will note the "shield" area is near identical, the text reads exactly the same. Obviously there is no maple leaf, but there is a box below the shield with Tange's "Prestige' logo.
Now I know full well that the P23 is a Prestige frame, but I have been informed that the Hammer frame is not, and my confusion stems from the use of a near identical Tubeset identifier on both frames. Does "Ritchey Logic Super Tubing - by Tange" actually not really mean anything? Did they stick it on Tange 5, MTB, Infinity etc tubesets as well as Prestige? How could you ever tell?
I do notice that both frames have the flattened, ovalised lower seat tube which I thought was Prestige specific (based on Kona Kilauea / Explosif I have owned). Was the Prestige tubeset actually just the 3 main tubes, or were there Prestige stay tube options too?
