Titanium Frame Identification - (Sorted Sept. 2023 - Russian Mig 3.3)

[MuchAlohaNui]

 

[MuchAlohaNui]

Bump for help. Mahalo!

 

[Woz]

I've definitely seen a similar textured rear drop-out before

https://www.retrobike.co.uk/threads...modern-winter-hack.170190/page-2#post-1279948

Thinking this is Chinese. The weird cable guides are screaming Joe Murray design IMHO, I can not say it is a Voodoo. Came from the same place that eventually went on to do Airborne, Van Nicholas (and a whole bunch of others for other markets?).

 

[Woz]

Oh, there is also a chain pip which is very characteristic of Airbornes, albeit it is not the same chain pip, so perhaps something much earlier?

I've understood this is the company: http://www.tibicycle.com/intro/41.html

 

[MuchAlohaNui]

Thanks for those links and chiming in on what you may think the frame is. The flanges/stepped head tube next to the cups, I am still hoping is a dead giveaway feature to someone. I tried searching for information on the names you mentioned, but I still do not come up with definitive examples in photos. Perhaps this frame is so bad ass it is unidentifiable!

 

[Woz]

It's not a volume production model from the "known brands" for sure; having no serial number would be suicide.

I once had a lower quality Chinese Ti frame with very thin and soft drop-outs. The serial number was only etched by hand, not stamped.

 

[MuchAlohaNui]

Interesting. Yeah, the lack of a serial number is a peculiar clue. The rear drop outs, which I measured with a caliper when I took the pictures above, are 7mm or 8mm thick iirc. They are BEEFY dropouts. They are thicker than my Serotta ATi and this unknown frame, the dropout thickness is closer to my Specialized M2 S-Works Stumpjumper Team frame. They are chunky, beefy dropouts.

Edit: added photo.