cherrybomb":33tx0qhe said:I've ridden bikes with the more relaxed geometry, early UK bikes copied the NorCal design. The Potts are beautifully made it's just the geometry doesn't suit my taste.![]()
I just wish I lived somewhere with the kind of trails they suited, this little old island isn't famous for it's fireroad or hard pack :roll:![]()
John":1ohh2j3p said:Taking Tonys suggestion further maybe we could run a rumpfy vs carsten vs jez botm.
Anthony":3clna7ve said:John":3clna7ve said:Taking Tonys suggestion further maybe we could run a rumpfy vs carsten vs jez botm.
The only downside of that would be to introduce an element of personal competition, whereas I thought it would just be interesting for Rumpfy as well as for us to see which one of his bikes was most admired and coveted by his fellow Retrobikers. Funnily enough, it wouldn't be the BotY Raleigh for me, even though that is such a perfect recreation and has such historical significance, because I don't see it as the 'best' bike in the first place.
That's not to say that there shouldn't be a Carsten's BotM at some point, I agree that there should. One of the nice things about showcasing a particular collection is that, in replying to comments made during the voting, the owner could provide us with a running commentary about the bikes in a non-competitive atmosphere and that would be a really interesting way to add to our understanding of the early history of mountain biking.
Just my own humble thoughts, obviously!
Anthony":3odm6yvq said:If you look on Steve Potts' website, he calls his bikes cross-terrain bikes, differentiating subtly from cross-country. I think we have quite a lot of fire road/hard pack actually, although obviously not as much as the USA. But the thing is that there's hardly anybody on those trails, because mtb fashion in the UK has moved away from that sort of 50+ miles in a day mode to technical riding without travelling far mode.
I think the Potts looks very suitable for x-c as well as x-t, and I'm not sure what is so relaxed about the geometry. The head angle is over 70, the offset isn't that large, maybe the chainstay is a little longer than modern bikes, but within the limits of a rigid fork, that looks a pretty usable bike to me. Except that I'd be a bag of nerves riding a bike with such a sublime paint job that I could so easily damage!
John":2x9qtuug said:Taking Tonys suggestion further maybe we could run a rumpfy vs carsten vs jez botm.
Kestonian":2n2qy965 said:Superb collection! Thank you for sharing them. Seeing things like this just makes me want to keep buying more bikes ...
One question though - in the picture with all the bikes in a line, what's keeping them standing
up?!
Carlos the Slackal":3qawgab7 said:More pics of the Otis Guy, please...!
dekerfintheshed":2sbv7x75 said:That is a true collector's collection, all are a thing of beauty (except, dare I say, the Slingshot, still don't get the concept)
The Salsa and both Potts stand out to me most but I'd happily throw a leg over any of 'em...
Looking at the relaxed geometry from the 80's kit also makes me realise I need to get my Fisher HKEK built up very soon too![]()
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John":16c2m9ex said:Looking good![]()
Taking Tonys suggestion further maybe we could run a rumpfy vs carsten vs jez botm.
Are they all ridden? Assume they are from your comments. That is cool.
Are they all keepers?