The retro effect on the bike scene

[Easy_Rider]

Hmmm, so why not say "liquid crystal display" screen instead, i smell cows poo.

because the combined weight of ''liquid crystal display'' clearly weighs more than the efficient and economic use of 'LCD'.... :roll:


I thought it was obvious.

By assuming it was obvious you are inferring I have a certain level of intelligence, I object to that.

 

[mikee]

the retro effect means we can start a fight with anyone it seems

 

[legrandefromage]

the retro effect means we can start a fight with anyone it seems

Now, do you fight with 'retro' methods or modern disk brake style methods...??

By assuming it was obvious you are inferring I have a certain level of intelligence,

I infer nothing

I object to that.

What? That? That just there or that over there?

 

[Neil]

the retro effect means we can start a fight with anyone it seems

And I'd been deliberately baiting with the spelling of disk for ages, and nobody stooped to it...

 

[andrewl]

...V brakes are lighter and far more user serviceable than discs(last months MBR, who cite 60 percent of all service enquiries are for disc brake reliability problems!!) Tubeless tyres are a waste of time (this months MBUK! Just too much trouble!- ever tried mending a trailside flat with them!) What goes around comes around eh?

You could also conclude that 60% of MBR readers are complete morons.

I haven't read through all the previous responses, but personally I find that most technically challenged riders cope much better with disc brakes and changing a set of pads than trying to align a set of V brake blocks or set up cantis. The shop mechanics (that I know) who have been in the game long enough also back this up.

As for tubeless. I've never had a single problem in 6 years of riding. I've helped a few mates mend a trailside flat with them and its exactly the same as putting a tube in a standard tyre.

I think the main difference between then and now is that the average rider today expects to be able to jump on their bike everyday and it just work just like they drive their car. When I was a similar age you actually had to know how to fix something (or work it out by trial and error, reading a manual etc) rather than sending off a dumb email or posting stupid questions on forums asking how to put air into your fork etc etc...

 

[legrandefromage]

...V brakes are lighter and far more user serviceable than discs(last months MBR, who cite 60 percent of all service enquiries are for disc brake reliability problems!!) Tubeless tyres are a waste of time (this months MBUK! Just too much trouble!- ever tried mending a trailside flat with them!) What goes around comes around eh?

You could also conclude that 60% of MBR readers are complete morons.

I haven't read through all the previous responses, but personally I find that most technically challenged riders cope much better with disc brakes and changing a set of pads than trying to align a set of V brake blocks or set up cantis. The shop mechanics (that I know) who have been in the game long enough also back this up.

As for tubeless. I've never had a single problem in 6 years of riding. I've helped a few mates mend a trailside flat with them and its exactly the same as putting a tube in a standard tyre.

I think the main difference between then and now is that the average rider today expects to be able to jump on their bike everyday and it just work just like they drive their car. When I was a similar age you actually had to know how to fix something (or work it out by trial and error, reading a manual etc) rather than sending off a dumb email or posting stupid questions on forums asking how to put air into your fork etc etc...

I dunno, back in 1994 with a brand new Zaskar, I did exactly that - went out on it everyday and it did just work. Same with my Claud Butler before that.

It was only when things wore out that problems began.

I have to repair fairly new bikes that are completely shagged because there has been no cleaning or servicing - sometimes I'm told to **** off because when I tell them, 'your chain rings are worn out, your chain and cassette have worn out and you need complete new cables and the price is...'

The 'retro effect on the bike scene' should be to be better bloody educated on how your bike works.

Disks are great but again, seized rotor bolts are a nightmare, cheap bikes have cheap jelly metal bolts that round off before you've even looked at them. Also, the disk kallipers are held on using very nasty quality bolts that tend to lose their heads. Remember, the majority of bikes are bought by parents who mostly have little or no experience of looking after a bike for little Jonny or any idea of what money buys. When a minor repair costs half as much as the initial purchase, its a case of 'fook that' and off down the tip the bike goes.

 

[Neil]

disk kallipers...

Too little, too late... the gag is gone, train has left the station, the plain ;-) has crashed into the <censored> mountain side...

 

[legrandefromage]

disk kallipers...

Too little, too late... the gag is gone, train has left the station, the plain ;-) has crashed into the <censored> mountain side...

I dont ******* kare

 

[Neil G]

I'm afraid I'm with Andy R on this one

I really do think discs are one of the best advances in MTB, I don't quite get why people find them so troublesome to set up etc.

People have always found brakes troublesome to setup.

One of the reasons for Vs after cantis, was because it is more tricky to setup a canti than a V.

I suppose this does keep Local bike shops in buisiness

 

[Neil]

disk kallipers...

Too little, too late... the gag is gone, train has left the station, the plain ;-) has crashed into the <censored> mountain side...

I dont **** kare

Don't be in denial, you so do ;-)




the k gave it away...