The Kili is back!

[sinnerman]

Raleigh tried new old with the chopper 3.. How did that work out?

The days of 2grand men for a bike are a long time gone... I think they are trying to cash in on the retro movement but have gone half arsed about it

The chopper you speak off, (which was reproduced in limited quantity batches) were constantly pre ordered and presold, and was reintroduced because consumers kept asking for it, raleigh new what they were doing with it, and did it well, hence there never being a permanant relaunch, and constant/current model. orange did the same with the clockwork in 1997..?....Nostalgia re-introduced these models., peoples love for the original helped this to happen.

Saracen, "the brand" was all but dead.....Madison the new owners of the brand, have relaunched the entire range.....not just one model...im not convinced they have set out to be specifically retro, (or to please aging mountainbikers like ourselves). I feel what they are doing is taking previous well regarded models and trying to stay true to the original ethos, that made them great in the first place. if the flyer was say a grand, made in taiwan with mediocre spec, every one on here that loved it bitd, would be up in arms over it.... :shock: and the flyer would have ended up more generic rubbish.....!!!!!!!

 

[marin man]

AS usual,Sinnerman is correct,you gets what you pays for generally

It looks cool in a neoretro way,I would buy one :? I think

 

[Iwasgoodonce]

I really like it. They could have just given a casual nod to the past with little more than a name and set of retro looking stickers.
Instead they have fillet brazing like back in the 80s. Nice.

 

[legrandefromage]

I guess those of us without the appropriate disposable income should just f**k off and look elsewhere then.

....lgf, you have a a massive collection, i wouldnt say you were short, of a few shillings....!!!!.....but your are right £2k can buy sum cool retrobikes..., but for the new generation......its nice...!!!!! my boy thinks its

my 'collection' cost less than the purchase price of new frame and forks.

 

[marin man]

easily,it was all free from what I have seen true recycling

 

[DeletedUser006]

There an "Interview : Saracen Bikes" in Decembers Singletrack mag, Has info on the new bikes as well as the old with the pictures of the Retrobiker's Saracens, Starts on Page 43

 

[legrandefromage]

easily,it was all free from what I have seen

again, another woefully inaccurate statement. give up.

 

[marin man]

hmmmm misqouting me on another page....to make it look like I said something that was in some way antagonistic....you are not that clever are you

I was only saying that from what I have seen most of your frames have been recycled from free sources,which I am all for,.......

About time we buried the hatchet I think,I am not to proud to do so.....

What say you :?:

It is the season of good will to all men apparently....

 

[sylus]

Raleigh tried new old with the chopper 3.. How did that work out?

The days of 2grand men for a bike are a long time gone... I think they are trying to cash in on the retro movement but have gone half arsed about it

The chopper you speak off, (which was reproduced in limited quantity batches) were constantly pre ordered and presold, and was reintroduced because consumers kept asking for it, raleigh new what they were doing with it, and did it well, hence there never being a permanant relaunch, and constant/current model. orange did the same with the clockwork in 1997..?....Nostalgia re-introduced these models., peoples love for the original helped this to happen.

The consumers as you mention were those in a similar ilk to ourselves remembering and preserving the old days

What came from that was a pile of crap that turned the original lovers away and saw them stuck at dealers after the initial rush and peanuts on resale

I see choppers and chopper 3's as the italian job and the italian job remake...somethings are best left as a positive memory than a modern cheap cash in

 

[legrandefromage]

hmmmm misqouting me on another page....to make it look like I said something that was in some way antagonistic....you are not that clever are you

I was only saying that from what I have seen most of your frames have been recycled from free sources,which I am all for,.......

About time we buried the hatchet I think,I am not to proud to do so.....

What say you :?:

It is the season of good will to all men apparently....

Show me these 'free' sources - Best not to type anything when you have no idea of what you are talking about.