The Health and Nutrition Thread

BiketoBasics

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I think it important to take command of one's own health. This most often requires efforts outside of established allopathic medical systems.

I think a thread dedicated to those who want to discuss their own self-directed health care might be worthwhile. Shared experiences which have proven effective for one might be of use to others.
 
Interesting thread idea. Velocio had very specific ideas about diet before a long ride early on. So certainly not a new notion in cycling.

I have been changing my diet to more healthy food in more moderation for the last year and a half and found it is such a fundamental thing which affects your well being and fitness and mental health too. Ideas about diet are varied and I wouldn't think my personal preferences are valid for everybody else, in fact I think it is very personal.
 
One of the things I’ve struggled with in cycling (long rides not everyday transport) is getting the fuelling right. After a couple of audax rides, I figured out I need a burst of fuel every half hour or so. Trouble is, in day to day life I’m trying to cut down/phase out carbs.
Now in theory, a keto diet without carbs should allow your body to just burn its fat reserves (of which I am moderately well found) meaning long rides without bonking.

In practice, you need some nosh on a ride, so what to eat that isn’t carby/blood sugar upper downy? My best effort so far is to roast and blitz peanuts, mix with that flax flour stuff that people put in porridge, melt together with dark chocolate. Tasty proteiny bites that aren’t too chokey and keep in a saddle bag for ages.
 
Currently, I'm investigating supplementing with Iodine/ iodide. Apparently most of the population is deficient in that element. Iodine plays a crucial role in every cell of the body.
 
I’m an Exercise Physiologist (Masters Degree) so may be able to help a little….and if I don’t know it I am a dab hand at researching!!
 
One of the things I’ve struggled with in cycling (long rides not everyday transport) is getting the fuelling right. After a couple of audax rides, I figured out I need a burst of fuel every half hour or so. Trouble is, in day to day life I’m trying to cut down/phase out carbs.
Now in theory, a keto diet without carbs should allow your body to just burn its fat reserves (of which I am moderately well found) meaning long rides without bonking.

In practice, you need some nosh on a ride, so what to eat that isn’t carby/blood sugar upper downy? My best effort so far is to roast and blitz peanuts, mix with that flax flour stuff that people put in porridge, melt together with dark chocolate. Tasty proteiny bites that aren’t too chokey and keep in a saddle bag for ages.
Sugar during exercise won’t cause sugar spikes and drops, it’s the one time it’s a win for sugar intake!
 
My favourite snack bar for cycling is homemade banana, peanut butter, dark chocolate and salted caramel flapjacks.

Rolled oats are great for a slow release of energy. Bananas for potassium which helps with endurance and reduces the chance of cramp. Peanut butter is pure protein and very high in energy, salt caramel helps replace salt lost through sweat and the bitterness of the dark chocolate chips balances out the sweetness of the caramel perfectly.

Costs next to nothing, tastes great and works.
 
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My favourite snack bar for cycling is homemade banana, peanut butter, dark chocolate and salted caramel flapjacks.

Rolled oats are great for a slow release of energy. Bananas for potassium which helps with endurance and reduces the chance of cramp. Peanut butter is pure protein and very high in energy, salt caramel helps replace salt lost through sweat and the bitterness of the dark chocolate chips balances out the sweetness of the caramel perfectly.

Costs next to nothing, tastes great and works.

Yummy!

My bigger ride feeding comprises of

Breakfast: eggs(hard boiled or fried) on multigrain or rye toast

30-45mins digestion

Pre ride: 1 large banana

4hr rides : 3 cheese and marmalade toasties(multigrain or rye) spaced evenly-ish apart, or all 3 at 2hrs. Depends on the route and whether i am out to rip my legs off, or cruise. 1 large banana in the last hour and 2 water bottles of plain water taken in regular sips.

Post ride: glass of milk, more water, and a protein heavy meal with some carbs, veg etc.

1-2hours rides:

Breakfast as above and then cheese on toast if not riding within 30-45mins following brekkie. 1 large banana pre ride and sometimes another when i am out. 1 bottle of water.

My diet is low carb as i am pre-diabetic so heavy on protein(mostly chicken, some fish, some lamb/beef mince) with lots of various veg, lots of salads, 2 eggs a day, and always some daily cheese and peanut butter.
No caffeine(found this goofs with my blood sugars), zero alcohol, the odd apple, and the odd small sweet treat, but only during/post hard exercise as exercise wakes up my insulin response and it behaves normally for a few hours.
Daily calculations to work out how much Magnesium i am eating and top up with pills to suit, Choline is taken care of with 2 eggs, and take a variety of supplements(multi, iron, Vit C, Vit B etc) depending on what real food has gone in my cakehole. Sometimes i weigh food items.
This is the most strict i have been with food, but i do not want to go full diabetic if i can help it. Knocking carbs right down to a bare minimum in daily meals has been really good for me and in ways i didn't imagine. The blood sugar spikes have gone, which is understandable, but each ride now i feel physically the same.
Before the diet it was a lottery as to how i was going to feel. Sometimes as flat as a pancake with wooden legs and sometimes full of beans yet it didn't follow a pattern of food intake.
A REALLY big surprise has been regarding my mental health. I get way less irritable, anxious, angry etc than i was getting when my blood sugars were flip flopping all over the place and am way more calm and relaxed. That has been a revelation.

like saddles it is a personal thing and depends on what you want to achieve. My drive is to stay healthy and fit because i let myself go for a good while and got incredibly unhealthy. A non-cycling, overweight, smoking, alcoholic with liver and kidney function red flags and high blood pressure. It has taken a few years now, but all that has been reversed.
 
Somebody once said to me "try to eat a rainbow" that's what i do. (Skittles excluded obvs).

Up to 50miles, just normal diet of fruit/muesli for breakfast, with home made flapjack for a snack if i stop.

Longer then I take banana, apple, cheese sandwich nothing special!

Recovery from a bigger ride is lots of water and normally grilled chicken and a huge heap of greens.....which is pretty much what I eat anyway.

Like many my carb intake is much lower the last 10 years, i find i just dont need them as much, ad I'm not needing to fuel as much as im hardly pushing the training envelope or racing any longer.

I do like a pint half way round any ride however..🤣 but that's a purely physiological gain from my perspective....it a journey to somewhere, as i hate circular rides with no purpose!
 
Interested to read more on this.

I eat fairly healthily, pretty fit, and in terms of size / weight I am a bean-pole. However, as per one of the comments above, I've never really sussed out why I will sometimes feel very weak early in a ride (even after a porridge-y, banana-y breakfast) whereas other times I feel very strong.
 
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