The Belgian-Japanese connection Flandria

[ata]

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4. Derailleurs, brakes and headset

First: gears! Rear derailleur will be a 7200. It came on the Olmo donor and I like it more than the first generation 'Crane' version. After a lot of cleaning (least favorite part to clean, for me ):

I think that is not an RD-7200 but an RD-7100. It seems to lack the metal top pulley and the clever hatch for the cage of the 7200 Dura Ace EX variant, that made it possible to remove the chain without breaking it. So still first generation DA if you discount the 'Crane'.

 

[Flandria]

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I think that is not an RD-7200 but an RD-7100. It seems to lack the metal top pulley and the clever hatch for the cage of the 7200 Dura Ace EX variant, that made it possible to remove the chain without breaking it. So still first generation DA if you discount the 'Crane'.

Well, that could be possible . I'm not a DA expert, so I just use the info I can find on Velobase!

6. Stem


After the bars, it was time to polish the stem. The choice was again Japanese with a SR AX-90 stem (100mm). The anodising was a bit to dull so I went for polishing again.

Step 1: before

Step 2: In a plastic bag with oven cleaner, to remove the anodising

Step 3: After 30 minutes of polishing!

Unsure about filling the 'SR Forged' logo with red enamel. Will decide later!

 

[Flandria]

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Found some time again to work a bit on the bike. First: the bottom bracket. I found a Shimano BB (I guess dura ace, regarding Velobase?) with English threaded cups and a 112mm axle. The date code stamped on the axle is AJ, so from 1976. A bit early for this build, but bearings and cups are in good condition so ok for me!

After cleaning:

During installation:

After installation:

Afterward, I installed the cranks, pedals and front derailleur. Clearance of the inner ring and chainstay is perfect: just a couple of mm's.

Triple Ace in one picture:

Bad quality but shiny as hell:

On of the last pieces of the Belgian-Japanese jigsaw were the shifters. I went to the Stalen Ros bike jumble/expedition in Ghent, a couple of weeks ago. Found a pair of NOS shifters, exactly the ones I was after. Seller asked less for them than another seller asked for a used pair, so bought something 'nos' for the first time

The rear derailleur then. I had to retap the threads of the hanger cause they were a bit damaged. No problem with the right tools and a couple of minutes later the derailleur was in place:

The full build so far. The other Flandria's of the fleet are also visible. Though I think I will have to sell the one on the wall. Three is just too much!

I ordered some red Tressostar cotton tape for the bars. The cable outers will be pearlescent white. I also bought a pair of wheels but still waiting until they arrive. Dura ace hubs on Nisi rims. Also on Stalen Ros I found a dura ace freewheel and decal. Not sure where to fit the decal: the obvious position is between the shifters (no?), but it doesn't look good in my opinion. Too big and the colours don't go well with the colours of the lug lining. I'm thinking about fitting on the seattube, under the FD. What do you think?

 

[Midlife]

Coming along nicely Personally I think the front mech is a bit high but I used to get it as close to the outer ring as possible LOL

BITD we put the Shimano decal under the front mech on the seat tube or in place of the tubing decal if it didn't have one, Don't think it would look right with the red and white frame though?

Here's a pic of my Bob Jackson with the decal on the seat tube.

Shaun

 

[Flandria]

Coming along nicely Personally I think the front mech is a bit high but I used to get it as close to the outer ring as possible LOL

BITD we put the Shimano decal under the front mech on the seat tube or in place of the tubing decal if it didn't have one, Don't think it would look right with the red and white frame though?

Thanks for the tip on the FD, I'll change it . So just a minimum clearance between the cage and ring is ok?

I'll fit the decal under the front mech. Still looking for a Ishiwata 022 decal to fit on the 'tubing-decal-place'

 

[torqueless]

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Not sure where to fit the decal: the obvious position is between the shifters (no?), but it doesn't look good in my opinion. Too big and the colours don't go well with the colours of the lug lining. I'm thinking about fitting on the seattube, under the FD. What do you think?

Well, you are fortunate, because the decal is optional. There is no law that says you have to attach it to your bike.... One of my bikes has MA2s and Continental tyres. The garish green and yellow '80s Mavic decal sits right next to the blue and orange logo on the Continentals. I mean, wtf? I may just as well throw paint at my wheels...

 

[Old Ned]

I reckon 3mm clearance ring/cage is about right.

The whole bike will look great when finished.

And why can't you have 3 or more Flandrias? The more the merrier I'd say....................

Still my lifetime favourite colour scheme. It was interesting to read in a recent magazine article with Brian Rourke that Red and White is their most popular paint job requested.

 

[Flandria]

I reckon 3mm clearance ring/cage is about right.

Worked on the bike today but forgot to adjust it. First thing on the list tomorrow .

Today I got a package, containing a SR Laprade seatpost. Exactly what I wanted: 27.0mm, some setback and a 'long' post length. Frame is a 57 and I actually need a 59/60, so hopefully this will make it a rideable ride for me . The post was well used and had some insertion marks, so I went for polishing again. First I sanded the post with 400/600/1200 to remove the 'relief'.

Post before

And afterwards:

I'm actually pretty amazed by the finishing quality of the post, concerning the Laprade wasn't the most expensive choice BITD! The saddle is a unknown suede brown one. No brand findable! Got it almost for free and after a treatment with suede shoe repairer, it looks quite good.

I also fitted the brake cable outers and bar tape. The cable outers are white/grey/pearlescent Shimano ones. Look good imo! Not sure on the red cotton bar tape though. Will judge it again when the wheel are fitted. Other option is white cotton tape.

Also arrived today: a set of wheels. Dura ace hubs laced on Nisi Moncalieri tubular rims. Italian, but I'll tolerate that I think . Will need a lot of elbow grease to clean them up though!

 

[deanhempshall]

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What method did you use for polishing the seat post?

 

[Flandria]

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What method did you use for polishing the seat post?

This one had small 'ribbles' (?) like campagnolo nuovo record seatposts have. You can see it a little bit on the 'before' picture I posted. First I sanded the post with 400 to remove this 'relief'. Then I sanded with 800, then 1200. You could sand again with 1200 wet, but that wasn't necessary with this post. Afterwards, it took me +/- 20 minutes of polishing with a bench grinder with buffing wheel and buffing compound. After that, it still looks a bit dull but after a quick hand polish with autosol it immediately starts to shine! The whole process took me more or less one hour...

edit: oh, and I don't sand/polish under the max insertion lines of seatposts / stems. Just because you take a little bit of material away with sanding/polishing, and you want to keep the correct diameter! Since that part is inside the frame, you won't see anything.