i believe in fixies":3u0n4ext said:
Have you tried swearing at them?
i remember working on a customers boiler years ago and trying to remove an old brass safety valve from a cast iron heat exchanger whilst chatting with the customer.
1.small grips:no movement
2.big grips:no movment
3. blowtorch and big grips:no movement
:? customer pops to neighbors house to enquire about borrowing big stilsons
4. call le valve a massive c*nt and threaten its parents:valve undoes by hand :xmas-big-grin:
swearing....it's a tool