State of the industry: a running thread

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I was slightly wrong. It was I think a hybrid style ebike with deore gearing. Reduced to £1600 from £2600. Still like you've said, a lot of dough even after the discount as the bike isn't all that in terms of spec, OEM parts etc. Maybe I'm living in a different world but since the reduction in the number of rings up front, the costs of chainsets has gone up not down (less is more???) And the price of cassettes and chains the same. Even tyres have become madly expensive for what they are, a fork service costs nearly as much as a car service, a bleed of 2 brakes costs £100+ locally (thankfully I can do most things myself). It's a very expensive hobby where what you have now will be obsolete in a few years, rendering the value of what you own a lot less.

Retrobikes are the way :)
semantics maybe, but the value wont reduce - unless you get fed up with it. The resale price will surely drop, but market forces dont apply to how you value your possessions. I have bikes with little resale price, but I value them enough to keep them and enjoy using them.

Someone once said: The Brits know the cost of everything but the value of nothing. The quote could of course be utterly false, but it chimes with me because I'm an unwilling consumerist. I routinely try to re-use disposable items.
 
I was slightly wrong. It was I think a hybrid style ebike with deore gearing. Reduced to £1600 from £2600. Still like you've said, a lot of dough even after the discount as the bike isn't all that in terms of spec, OEM parts etc. Maybe I'm living in a different world but since the reduction in the number of rings up front, the costs of chainsets has gone up not down (less is more???) And the price of cassettes and chains the same. Even tyres have become madly expensive for what they are, a fork service costs nearly as much as a car service, a bleed of 2 brakes costs £100+ locally (thankfully I can do most things myself). It's a very expensive hobby where what you have now will be obsolete in a few years, rendering the value of what you own a lot less.

Retrobikes are the way :)

Yes, this is one of the great conundrums. Everyone in the chain is apparently struggling, yet the prices are insane compared to similar things like cars and motorcycles.
 
regards Mondraker binning their team, not surprised, the UK muc-off young guns team is not mentioned (they ride Mondraker) but i bet that continues, it has to be cheaper, a few bikes to riders from Mondraker, help from Silverfish for maintainence on the forks and shocks, schwalbe tyres supplying rubber, backed up by muc-off for kit and consumables like cleaning and oil etc but they have a very well promoted social media, and as there are no massive names to pay money to it must cost a lot less to run by comparison given those kids are getting good results.

i think the race team side of the trade might go a little more grass roots, which frankly may not be a bad thing.

obvs Orange has also ended their factory team.
 
@Russell any chance you can sumerise that link? i saw 23pages on a pdf and thought nope! not gonna sit and read that!:oops: call me lazy!

i did hear a few years ago though that they were in debt, not sure to who though, i assume specialized US? but i also heard they some how mysteriously disapeard that debt
 
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