@CassidyAce this echoes exactly what i said to a bike rep the other day, entry level to mid range is where most people have no money, high end customers still have money as the cost of living issue isn't a problem for the wealthy, but the slightly annoying thing for me (not that this affects me either way) is that the bike companies are massively discounting across the range, and i find this a bit annoying, not because i'm in the trade and having to do deals etc, it's more that i see it as unfair, someone who has little spare money can't afford a £800 discounted to £550 or whatever but a rich guy who can afford his shiny new all singing all dancing £7000 beast is also seeing massive discounts, and it irks me that he is benefitting from the situation while the guy who might need a bike for work because he can't afford the repair on his car still can't afford a bike . . . it just sucks.