@klunkrider yes all of this is related, i still have an overstock from covid with some stuff, but i have one superpower, i'm a hermit. so basically i ordered loads of stuff in advance, and paid for it as i went and as it sold the money stayed in the bank, when things started to slow, i cancelled some stuff, other stuff i kept on order, i only have an excess of bell helmets and 8 speed 11-34 cassettes, everything else is pretty much back to my normal levels, as a result i should be ok, i will just gradually tick out the overstock. but the importers weren't as lucky, the commitment to stock holding for them is massive by comparison, it's not as easy fro them to cancel orders, and the numbers are simply much bigger, and the bigger they are the harder they fall.