Softtails

Ibis made one

Ibis had the Ripley which I believe is still being produced by Castellano ....the Fango
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Here is a link to their website:
http://www.castellanodesigns.com/fango.html


Then theirs the Moots YBB....been around for a while.
 
I am supprised nobody has mentioned Pro-Flex.

With the limited travel, rightly or wrongly I dont know, but I always classed my old 852 as a softail.

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Defender":464s6lxu said:
Slow6":464s6lxu said:
What makes a soft tail? is it just that the small amount of travel in the rear or do the chainstays have to be fixed? no moving parts save for the shock?

It's the fact it has no pivot point on the chain stays and uses the natural spring in the material they're made from?
They are by that very nature short travel, typically 1"-2"'s depending on the design and shock etc.
I like the simplicity and the hard tail look.

Thanks for that :D

the ibis in this thread would have to qualify, pretty nice looking frames!

http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=115243&highlight=ugly
 
Pickle I have always thought of proflex as being full suspension, all be it short travel and very early to market. The pivot makes it so.

Would an Allsop softride be considered a softtail? Not that I have one to show.

My Favourite was the soft tail from Merlin in 1991/2, still a dream bike for me. Was there ever an e-stay softtail?
 
The Ken":2filzb79 said:
Pickle I have always thought of proflex as being full suspension, all be it short travel and very early to market. The pivot makes it so.

My Favourite was the soft tail from Merlin in 1991/2, still a dream bike for me.

I agree TK that the pivot technically makes it 'full suspension', but its just the short travel gives it a softail feel. Their Beast is more full suspension.

Merlin Echo.....stunning.


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the stiffer the better is my motto (my wifes too..doh) but couldn't resist a nice sunn flex bike.. thought what the heck, i'll give it a try.. 1380 euros poorer and a week later i have it complete in front of me.. and can't help myself, but a soft tail looks 'more' of a bike then one with a rigid frame.. i find 3-4" travel frames with huge spring lame, but a little flex tube does just the thing and creates a harmonic appearance, if you ride with short travel front fork that is :p

and the ride yes first one felt super flexy, thought about taking it apart selling or have it as wall art.. but tensioned the spokes, inflated more air in the tires and gave it a second run.. a long run.. :) that's how i got sold on soft tails.. it's comfy, not that explosive as a super stiff rigid, but the rear flex helps you stay grounded if you know what i mean.. not bouncing around when you climb, rather make you more connective to a rough surface, which for me makes tuff climbs easier.. and of course the downhill gets softer and unhilly terrain more grounded as well

after having replaced the elostromes i see though that the flex construction makes the frame weeker.. it swallows bumps, yes, but them lose frameends of the seat stays, only held in place with one 4mm bolt can't be good.. and that summarize my soft tail experience - beautiful and comfortable - weak and unstiff

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as first put together, looks pretty different now.. and doh again - have bought yet another sunn flex
 
The Ken":31hwtrj1 said:
Pickle I have always thought of proflex as being full suspension, all be it short travel and very early to market. The pivot makes it so.

Would an Allsop softride be considered a softtail? Not that I have one to show.

My Favourite was the soft tail from Merlin in 1991/2, still a dream bike for me. Was there ever an e-stay softtail?

from an old german mag:
 

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