singletrack ibis "abuse" !

Ransetsu

Retro Guru
reading the most recent issue of Singletrack the other day - was very interested in the Ibis story - untill i read the bit " riding old Ibis bikes is like trading in your M3 for a Cinquecento " good god ! how can the owner of Ibis say this ?? i'm just in the process of buying the "hand-job" and really looking forward to taking it for a thrash ..... all they make now are blooming carbon fibre full suspension things ....... has he never heard of RetroBIKE ????
 
I've not seen the article but assume it's an interview with Scot Nicol? Look at it from his point of view. He has to sell an ever increasing range of bikes to a new audience, who have probably never heard of IBIS, ridden one or have any regard for their history. He wants the focus to be on the new kit - not what he was making 15 years ago.

It's suprising he's distancing the old from the new so much, but it's so true - modern bikes ride nothing like bikes from the early 90's, and if you've not grown up with them the older bikes feel very "different" (read wierd).
 
jez-2-many-bikes":1jrze96o said:
Ha! Love it!

Id say that if I had a whole host of new bikes that I needed to flog to pay my mortgage.

Ha!

:D

I havent read the article, but chuckibis.com ie scot, still makes a point of selling the vast majority of decals for the older ibis frames & stems... do distancing the older stuff does seem a tad weird if thats what he was implying?
 
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he went on to say something along the lines of "we're not doing Stairway to Heaven again" ie been there done that moved on - please don't ask me about it again ... he also implied that people who ride old bikes ( and pay large sums for them off the likes of e-bay are "weird" ...... that'll be us then !!!
 
Then i'm just a square peg in a round hole. :( I have no intent ever to ride a new bike.
But i will put some new parts on it :oops: so that i can enjoy the 'old' feel still. After all cranks haven't changed that much? neither have hubs/rims.rim brakes. Must admit finding old rigid forks is getting harder :(
 
It’s a bit like being asked to talk about your previous lover who let you down, when all you’re really interested in right now is your current one who does you very nicely.

Although Scot Nicol may be a very laid-back kind of guy, his words read as though there’s a bit of pain in them. The story seems to me to be basically all about Taiwan, but also about Nicol being twenty six years older than he was when he started Ibis. Back then he could make a living selling home-made bikes and not working too hard, but the market for ‘jewel’ US-made products gradually disappeared in the face of the sheer competence (and hard work) of the Taiwanese competitors. The plain fact is building a steel frame is just welding nine tubes together and if the tubes are the same and your competitor welds them together accurately for half the price, you can’t compete. That must have hurt.

So now Ibis builds nothing, but designs and develops carbon frames, which are built guess where? And as Rody and Wold Ranger point out in Tintin’s ‘broken’ thread, there’s a lot of high-endedness about carbon that suits the concept of a jewel brand far better than steel does. Nicol has seen the light – whereas Ibis mark one was doomed to failure, the Ibis mark two concept of designed in the US, built in Taiwan is the way to go for someone like him.

And the poll of Singletrack readers voted the carbon Mojo the Bike of the Year, so he must be doing something right.
 
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