Same Old Politics Of Hate

[highlandsflyer]

Look I frankly cannot be arsed arguing with people on forums who may or not be real

I looked at your join date and laughed. Irony does that to me.

I think we are all real; otherwise they are programming bots with amazingly realistic personality disorders.

 

[sunrise]

Yeah i read about that las night about U2, tbf though did we need any more evidence that bono is a nobber? no. (no alledgedly needed. i think.)

i dont wanna be in the eurozone purely because i dont think the money looks real. it just looks like monopoly money, no wonder countries are going down, isnt the economy all about confidence? who has confidence in monopoly money?!

I like good old Liz to be looking all judging at you when you buy unecessary things.

 

[JohnH]

I think we are all real; otherwise they are programming bots with amazingly realistic personality disorders.

Hey, was that comment aimed at me? beedy-beedy-beedy

 

[tintin40]

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Nutters on the internet? Surely not.

Either way it's fairly futile discussing it any further, nobody will ever agree- least of all me.

Agree. It's the people that write to much in their replies that are worrying

 

[JohnH]

Agree. It's the people that write to much in their replies that are worrying

Well for some people, "Conservative slag" or "Tories = Scum" falls a bit short of a well thought-out political viewpoint....

 

[highlandsflyer]

I have to go along with that, a lot of people I encounter now genuinely seem to think they support Conservative values. I don't doubt their intelligence and integrity. To win any argument, you must respect those that disagree with you. On some level, at least.

With the internet, and the resulting interactivity between masses of people, we need to look at ways of making our society more democratic.

Like the circus animals debate today, that means moving on from the restrictions of two party/three party/four party, etc. and into a new era of consensus democracy.

Not suggesting the consensus should always decide, only that it could easily become a factor in all decisions made after debate.

 

[sunrise]

Agree. It's the people that write to much in their replies that are worrying

Well for some people, "Conservative slag" or "Tories = Scum" falls a bit short of a well thought-out political viewpoint....

Its catchy though, probably why people chant it.. tory tory tory scum scum scum. labour doesnt quite fit, its a bit long, and lib dem defos doesnt.its probably just a rhyming thing.

 

[tintin40]

Agree. It's the people that write to much in their replies that are worrying

Well for some people, "Conservative slag" or "Tories = Scum" falls a bit short of a well thought-out political viewpoint....

Its catchy though, probably why people chant it.. tory tory tory scum scum scum. labour doesnt quite fit, its a bit long, and lib dem defos doesnt.its probably just a rhyming thing.

so true.

I like this. From a great man

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/wo ... /08/06.htm

Things haven't changed much for them

 

[Neil G]

Look I frankly cannot be arsed arguing with people on forums who may or not be real...

Well in that case, I'll stop wasting lots of my own time writing long and carefully explained replies then... :roll:

What i will say is that to me, and to a lot of other people too, David Cameron is using this recession as the excuse he was always wanting to cut back on things society needs.

Fine. Let's ignore things like facts and numbers and just keep voting Labour until the country goes bankrupt.

People forget that there are all cycles of recession, that recession is as common as boom. I think it is part of the socialist ideal to say that this system only hurts those at the bottom, while the rich remain rich throughout- and to make real changes to benefit everyone its better to even these ups and downs out. That is probably what he wanted to say, not 'i'm such a big guy i can control the world'.

After 13 years of Labour government...

• The gap between rich and poor is the widest that it's been for 40 years -- http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/ ... comes-poor
• Gordon's PFI schemes are going to shovel huge quantities of tax money from cash-strapped councils to wealthy corporations for the next 50 years
• The former heads of banks that were so badly run that Alastair Darling had to nationalise them, walked away with pensions of over £60,000 per month
• The Labour govt. printed money to get the banks trading again. The value of our savings and pensions went down while Barclays pocketed £6bn of that money to patch up their own finances and pay themselves bonuses.
• Public sector workers lost their jobs so that the UK could pay interest on our largest ever national debt to investment bankers and hedge fund managers (that luxury yacht won't pay for itself...)

Does that sound to you like a party that's reduced the inequalities in society?

I guess the census of the left is probably that Brown kinda had to spend a lot to try to fix the years of social damage which happened under Thatcher, which we are still suffering from.

And how long is the "fix" going to last when it depends on borrowed money? (Answer: Just about until the lender wants their cash back.)

Anyway, I've said all I can say. As somebody who was born in Teesside, I've seen first-hand what voting Labour does to a place -- and it doesn't involve creating prosperity and employment.

+1

Couldn't agree more

 

[tintin40]

So you thinking creating the NHS was a bad idea back in 45?