Return of 'The Polish Panto Butcher'

[john]

Like the Mack he is back.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Campagnolo-At ... 5af1fd1220

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Campagnolo-At ... 5af1fd0a12

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Campagnolo-At ... 5af1fd03f8

Colnago clubs all over these parts. To be fair to the chap the work is getting tidier in execution.

 

[The History Man]

I was a toolroom apprentice at 16. Mention of pantographs brought me here as I used to use one.

This is laughable. Is he doing it with a dremel? Forgive my ignorance but are the real items highly sought after then?

 

[i-am-iron-man]

'If less is more, imagine how much more more would be'

 

[Ian Raleigh]

This guy is killing/ruining quality bike parts! Some fooker send him a message telling him to stop!

 

[latman]

oh my http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Campagnolo-A ... 5af1fd03f8

 

[The History Man]

As long as he's happy!

 

[Johnsqual]

I was a toolroom apprentice at 16. Mention of pantographs brought me here as I used to use one.

This is laughable. Is he doing it with a dremel? Forgive my ignorance but are the real items highly sought after then?

If the parts were originally pantographed to match a complete bike (e.g. original Colnago pantos to go on a Colnago bike) they tend to be worth a lot more.

I think custom pantographing and/or drillium (whether done back in the day or more recently) will usually lower the value of a part.

No idea about the more baroque stuff on some of those panto and drillium sites. It must involve a lot of work hours but custom stuff is usually an acquired taste. Some of it (especially the thinned out Nuovo Record derailleur) looks like a good way to make a perfectly good part funtionally less useful, even if it is very pretty to look at.

 

[Woz]

:shock: :facepalm:

...quality stuff for the "Campagnolo 80th Anniversary – Your Stories Wanted" right there!

 

[The History Man]

So drillium is just more holes?
This stuff looks freehand? Parkinson's?

 

[fiks]

I was a toolroom apprentice at 16. Mention of pantographs brought me here as I used to use one.

This is laughable. Is he doing it with a dremel? Forgive my ignorance but are the real items highly sought after then?

If the parts were originally pantographed to match a complete bike (e.g. original Colnago pantos to go on a Colnago bike) they tend to be worth a lot more.

I think custom pantographing and/or drillium (whether done back in the day or more recently) will usually lower the value of a part.

No idea about the more baroque stuff on some of those panto and drillium sites. It must involve a lot of work hours but custom stuff is usually an acquired taste. Some of it (especially the thinned out Nuovo Record derailleur) looks like a good way to make a perfectly good part funtionally less useful, even if it is very pretty to look at.

I agree it should lower the desirability, I always go for original condition, the only exception is as you say where the bike company originally fitted their bikes with the stuff. I suspect a lot, if not most, of the engraved parts on Ebay etc are "fake" ie newly done.

I think most of the drillium stuff is really ugly though, especially the random holes and slots.

Who's buying a stem for £100-200 just because it's got a logo and letters engraved on it when the same stem in original condition goes for £10-20?