Retro trail bike frame weights?

[hamster]

Ooooowww that' steep.

My Pine Mtn was quoted as 22.7lbs in 1994 (rigid forks) if I remember right.

Admittedly it had some barely functional weight weenie bits like Mavic 230 rims, but still a steel quill stem and steel headset.

 

[Benandemu]

Is it too dear?
Marin Ultimate was £3700 as a standard bike in 1995 from Marin, and I bet you could spend another grand on making it lighter.
Let me calculate inflation since then...

 

[perry]

game over fellas

if companies expect people to lay down 7Gees on a bike for " long distance mountain rides or just simply touring with your friends " or as i like to say JUST GOING FOR A RIDE nobody will buying mountain bikes anymore now its clear you have to have 150mm travel to get to the other side of the forest but nobody can aspire to own such a thing , nobody can purchase an old kona stinky and use 3 or 4 year old parts . it would result in a bike weighing over 25lbs . it just wont do

at least evans are offering free delivery

http://www.evanscycles.com/products/sco ... e-ec016241

and if you want a larger picture to try and decide if you want the £7095 genius ltd or the £6850 spark ltd

http://scottusa.com/gb_en/product/2410/11764/genius_10



your out of luck nobody wants you to see the detail . maybe in 2010 they will offer a larger picture for £8045

 

[Benandemu]

Is it too dear?
Marin Ultimate was £3700 as a standard bike in 1995 from Marin, and I bet you could spend another grand on making it lighter.
Let me calculate inflation since then...

£5250 at today's cost of inflation.

Which is why i didn't buy one back then. I remember a bare Merlin frame was around £2000 in very early 90's, which is why I spent £650 on a (cough) Dyna-Tech Ti frame instead. Inflation calculator says the merlin would be £3135 at today's money, and there seem to be enough of them lying around. Well, hanging around maybe.

 

[FluffyChicken]

FluffyChicken usually knows what he is talking about, but I was surprised by 4.5lbs as well. The Blizzard has never been a particularly light frame. It's a go out into the wilderness and get back bike, not a racer.

I'm also surprised by the seat tube getting thinner. As far as I know, Reynolds only make 853 seat tubes in 9-6-12, and that is pretty much a standard profile for high-end mtbs. The 853 Pro Team seat tube is a 6-4-8, but Pro Team is for road bikes and I'd be very surprised if RM uses a road tube on the Blizzard.

Thanks , Though notice the claimed part, I just grabbed it from their blurb ;-). It's far too modern for my knowledge of frames and this 853 you talk of ,lol

 

[hondamatic]

game over fellas

if companies expect people to lay down 7Gees on a bike for " long distance mountain rides or just simply touring with your friends " or as i like to say JUST GOING FOR A RIDE nobody will buying mountain bikes anymore now its clear you have to have 150mm travel to get to the other side of the forest but nobody can aspire to own such a thing , nobody can purchase an old kona stinky and use 3 or 4 year old parts . it would result in a bike weighing over 25lbs . it just wont do

at least evans are offering free delivery

http://www.evanscycles.com/products/sco ... e-ec016241

and if you want a larger picture to try and decide if you want the £7095 genius ltd or the £6850 spark ltd

http://scottusa.com/gb_en/product/2410/11764/genius_10



your out of luck nobody wants you to see the detail . maybe in 2010 they will offer a larger picture for £8045

You know, I just about bought the lowest-end model in that range, last year's model (ie. a 2008 Scott Genius 40) for $1999 CDN, or about $1600 US. It wasn't too heavy at 29-ish lbs.

Of course things get expensive when you add carbon everywhere. There's usually an alloy version of the same thing that's 80% of the bike, weighs 4 lbs more and costs 30-40% as much. This is where I tend to buy.

Granted, if you're in love with low weigh, 28-29 lbs would be heavy next to any rigid bike from 1995. To be honest, I no longer care - even my '99 Stumpjumper was built at 27-28 lbs when it was my one/only bike.

 

[perry]

if i wasnt so lazy id work out the £/$ per gram between the ltd ( and at that much id be wanting to know the other owners by first name or be allowed to wander around the scott factory drinking all their coffee ) and the very lowest from that range

and to what extent is it limited ? . in a company as big as scott that could be 1000 units

 

[Poyares]

1994 DBR Axis TR 16" True Temper TT Lite
4,21 lbs = 1.910 k.