Retro frame/ projec

[johnnyv]

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Thanks for the help guys if anyone has any ideas on the frame, that would be great

 

[Barchettaman]

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Just my 2p.

That frame looks in pretty rough condition.

The area where the down tube shifter clamp has been looks rusty, I'd be taking the paint off and checking whether it's merely superficial.

Does the bottom bracket run smooth? If so great - the headset likewise? Is there a seatpost clamp bolt too?

If so, AND if the frame is exactly your size, AND if you have all the parts on hand, I would maybe build that frame up as a superfast flat bar roadbike, geared or SS. They call them 'stadtflitzers' here in Germany.

I wouldn't put money into powder coating that frame and fork. The ratbike look is pretty cool. The most I would do is clear of the dirt and rust and shoot a rattle can clearcoat over the worst bits

If the BB and headset are shot, then I wouldn't bother.

 

[johnnyv]

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BB feels good and head set, I have got the old frame just as a project. I was thinking of a fixed wheel just to breath life into a old boy. Bit of a rescue job and ride around town for myself

 

[keithglos]

What you have looks like the low end Peugeot with Carbolite (known as Carboheavy) tubing using internally brazed joints. This can only be done with thick heavy tubing.
It would make more sense to me to buy a complete usable decent old lightweight for about £100 that you can clean up and service.

The reason that your frame has no parts is that someone out there was willing to pay more for a few original parts than the value of the bike complete. If you were wishing to rebuild as original it could cost a fortune. I can't see why people do it. It has created a market in grossly overpricd parts.

Keith

 

[johnnyv]

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Cheers Keith,
I was given the frame so nothing lost. I was considering painting it and ss but I have seen a BSA and Raleigh so I will get them I think,
Nothing ventured nothing gained. Keith is there any good site to buy parts ect ect, literature I can research classic bikes? My dream teen bike is a Raleigh banana ha ha ha

 

[keithglos]

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Johnny, I see so many on here that get into huge expense to finish up with a low end bike. I was a lightweight bike retailer in the 1950/60's, and at 81 am a bit out of date but search this site for info.

Many Raleigh and BSA bikes were made by Raleigh in the Carlton works. Mostly standard mass produced but highly servicable. There is plenty of Raleigh history out there.

Keith

 

[johnnyv]

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Elswick stag? Any good

 

[keithglos]

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Johnny, You could check the history of Elswick-Hopper, Falcon and the Clements brothers, to see which era it came from.

I would prefer a genuine handbuilt from a small frame builder, but not one of the overpriced highly collectibles.

Keith

 

[johnnyv]

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Thanks Keith,
Great advise now I need to get my head into the scene and find a bike lol

 

[oonaff]

'kiethgloss' thankyou for your post. i do recall one reader stating his carbolite weighed in at 26lb[but was still a good ride] ive been thinking about getting a carbolite to re kindle my younger days and use as a quick shopper
so what you are saying is the externally lugged ones are lighter?
ive also been looking at th e peutoet 'record du monde' it looks more stylish' but not sure
if its more of a tourer goometry wise ?
[got one £8.99 rec' du mond -no wheels though]