Rescued a dawes with weird gears , leather saddle Help?

[parkysparky]

Hi all, I brought a old dawes of the scrapman today, its rough as old boots, but has shiny bottoms on the forks, a leather saddle, carved handle bars and weird rear mech with two cables, the paint is shot though. its a creamy colour with pale blue on head tube with stars on it. 531 tubing and 27 inch wheels .Tried to find some info by searching ebay but couldn't find another, unsure of value and model. can anyone help please?

 

[Bats]

We'd need to see.

 

[parkysparky]

Will put a photograph up tomorrow, cannot even find one on google. It has a lovely huret speedo fitted and the huret gear shifter on down tube has 2 arms on the same side, which connects to a rear mech with a chain coming out of it. I know its a rare bike just don't know anything else

 

[David B]

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Yup, a photo or two would help. This is from a very good site for old manufacturers' brochures....

http://www.bulgier.net/pics/bike/Catalogs/Dawes-64/

....but none of the models seem to fit that description. 1964 is the oldest Dawes brochure on the site, but other than the Concorde (which doesn't have that odd rear mech), nothing else is built with 531. Not even a very early incarnation of the famous Galaxy!

Incidentally, chain-operated post-WW2 rear derailleurs were often - but not exclusively - a British-made peculiarity, their makers including Cyclo (or Cyclo Benelux) and Resilion.

David

 

[parkysparky]

Oh and the rear wheel is a flip flop hub with a 5 speed cassette on one side and the other doesn't have a cog on just a lock ring. Around the bottom bracket has a really fancy lock ring as well

 

[Robbied196]

The stars pattern was used through the 50s and into the 60s. Not the same colour but does it look something like this:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/62249235@ ... 708382898/

Pics would be good but the cream and blue was an option for the Debonair. Engraved bars are Concorde used on a lot of their models, saddle if original would be a Wrights or Lycett?

 

[parkysparky]

identical accept colour and the fork bottoms are chrome, saddle is a dawes Autograph best butt leather No19

 

[parkysparky]

Just wondering value, I know roughly what I would get for the saddle on its own

 

[parkysparky]

Re: Re:

Yup, a photo or two would help. This is from a very good site for old manufacturers' brochures....

http://www.bulgier.net/pics/bike/Catalogs/Dawes-64/

....but none of the models seem to fit that description. 1964 is the oldest Dawes brochure on the site, but other than the Concorde (which doesn't have that odd rear mech), nothing else is built with 531. Not even a very early incarnation of the famous Galaxy!

Incidentally, chain-operated post-WW2 rear derailleurs were often - but not exclusively - a British-made peculiarity, their makers including Cyclo (or Cyclo Benelux) and Resilion.

David

None of those in the catalogue, but great read

 

[parkysparky]