Recycling bins

mikee":11znwqfy said:
we have 7 bins
1 green for cans and metalic waste , one green one for plastic
1 black one for paper and 1 black one for cardboard
2 brown ones one for garden/ organic waste the other for food waste
and finally a little blue one for "landfill" waste

but our council won some award for re-cycling so thats okay



And the embodied energy in those 7 bins will negatively off-set any benefits gained from your recycling by at ten years or so.


Utter madness.

There's never any joined up thinking or resource sharing between authorites and it's nonsense.

If your council had done things properly they would have invested in a proper waste centre that separates at the centre rather than at source - thereby saving 5 bins, thousands of tonnes of no-doubt 'virgin' plastic, tonnes of CO2 from transport runs alone - not to mention the visual impact on the streetscape.

The fact your council won an award for their efforts just goes to show how the numpties in control rarely see the bigger issue, or look further down the line. Instead, they prefer figures that show year-on-year 'improvements' rather than accounting for their wider impacts.

Essentially the bins are for show, to help people think they are 'playing their part'

Such a missed opportunity for district heating and a combined CHP plant - the sort of things that would actually make a difference...

My time living in Finland showed how 'proper' recycling and energy production / use should work and would be an eye-opener for most council / governement leaders.

But then, they've only had 40 or so years head start on us I suppose - as I'm sure Kai and Shamus would confirm...

There is of course the bigger question of why we recycle glass / alu / plastic in the first place. The energy used in sorting / grinding / blasting / reforming glass alone is massive. Glass can be used for dozens of cycles before in needs to be broken down.

Many of the places I travelled around in Germany a decade or so ago didn't for example have coke in a can. Instead they had coke in a glass, which was then returned to vending machines which swallowed the bottle and returned a few Marks. The bottle was then simply returned to the bottling plant for sterilising and refilling. This would occur many times before the bottles were recycled.

Unfortunately, in the UK sustainabilty is considered more an item of show than one of responsibility. That is the primary reason why the UK is on a mission to cover every hill with a wind turbine rather than investing in tidal power - not because wind turbines are any better, but because they are more visible and the government / energy companies can be 'seen' to be taking action...


I should add of course that these are only my views and not the views of Retrobike®

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"Essentially the bins are for show, to help people think they are 'playing their part' "

yup they look great up the side of my driveway
 
Varies from council to council, which is a real shame - a universal recycling system would simplify things so much. Not advocating centralisation but some sort of consistency between authorities would help to eradicate bad authorities (ahem, Staffs Moorlands)
 
mikee":9zial4bv said:
"Essentially the bins are for show, to help people think they are 'playing their part' "

yup they look great up the side of my driveway



BoyBurning":9zial4bv said:
If your council had done things properly they would have invested in a proper waste centre that separates at the centre rather than at source - thereby saving 5 bins, thousands of tonnes of no-doubt 'virgin' plastic, tonnes of CO2 from transport runs alone - not to mention the visual impact on the streetscape.
 
ucyclenottingham":1k1ihveq said:
Varies from council to council, which is a real shame - a universal recycling system would simplify things so much. Not advocating centralisation but some sort of consistency between authorities would help to eradicate bad authorities (ahem, Staffs Moorlands)


BoyBurning":1k1ihveq said:
There's never any joined up thinking or resource sharing between authorites and it's nonsense.

Such a missed opportunity for district heating and a combined CHP plant - the sort of things that would actually make a difference...


;)
 
orange71":3janfqkd said:
re-use before recycle

sense at last

but then (now) your liable for some idiot damaging themself
on what ever they re-use

every action ...... etc
 
orange71":fu6rxlqv said:
re-use before recycle

yes very true

when i was studying, i used this

conserve
reserve
produce

most people love to just jump on the last one :roll:
 
Chester is great;
Blue wheelie for all recycling, everything is mixed together bar glass.
Green wheelie for all garden
Brown wheelie for everything else

Simples
 
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