Rare Prototype Zaskar .. yawn.. yer mate.

[Tomahawk kid]

So how can you tell a stripped & polished Zaskar from a stripped & polished Zaskar LE ?
Why is it called a Zaskar & not Zanskar ?

 

[legrandefromage]

So how can you tell a stripped & polished Zaskar from a stripped & polished Zaskar LE ?
Why is it called a Zaskar & not Zanskar ?

Before about 1998, there are NO DIFFERENCES for Zaskar frames - 'LE' badges represented equipment spec. Later models just confuse me.

 

[Marcus W]

On this clip, Hans Rey talks about a Zaskar prototype.

http://youtu.be/l7ysBQu4_hY

From the clip, according to Hans, only one prototype survived and it belongs to a collector in Switzerland.

I'd be inclined to believe him.

But I believe he maybe refering to the first editions 1990 manufacture not like the ebayer?

Do you concur?

 

[Tomahawk kid]

So how can you tell a stripped & polished Zaskar from a stripped & polished Zaskar LE ?
Why is it called a Zaskar & not Zanskar ?

Before about 1998, there are NO DIFFERENCES for Zaskar frames - 'LE' badges represented equipment spec. Later models just confuse me.

Cheers for the reply legrandefromage, I always believed, from what I'd been told, that the frame geometry was different on the LE, the difference being that the Zaskar geometry was just ordinary whereas the LE was team geometry.
Also, from what I heard, that the Le was internally butted & the Zaskar wasn't but by comparison the frames seem to weigh the same.

 

[Blackstar]

On this clip, Hans Rey talks about a Zaskar prototype.

http://youtu.be/l7ysBQu4_hY

From the clip, according to Hans, only one prototype survived and it belongs to a collector in Switzerland.

I'd be inclined to believe him.

But I believe he maybe refering to the first editions 1990 manufacture not like the ebayer?

Do you concur?

I'd say so.

Over the 90's, something must have prompted GT to move the gusseting from the top tube to the down tube.

At this point, I don't have any view on the sellers honesty. It would be good to get to the bottom of this. Time will tell.

 

[coomber]

So how can you tell a stripped & polished Zaskar from a stripped & polished Zaskar LE ?
Why is it called a Zaskar & not Zanskar ?

Before about 1998, there are NO DIFFERENCES for Zaskar frames - 'LE' badges represented equipment spec. Later models just confuse me.

The 1997 Zaskar LE came with an integrated seat clamp, the Zaskar didnt.

 

[SeeingisBelievingGTMuseum]

There were tubing butting differences between the Zaskar and the LE as soon as 1995. Visual differences in seat clamp, integrated seat tube and dropouts started in 97 as mentioned earlier.

 

[SeeingisBelievingGTMuseum]

There were tubing butting differences between the Zaskar and the LE as soon as 1995. Visual differences in seat clamp, integrated seat tube and dropouts started in 97 as mentioned earlier.

 

[SeeingisBelievingGTMuseum]

On this clip, Hans Rey talks about a Zaskar prototype.

http://youtu.be/l7ysBQu4_hY

From the clip, according to Hans, only one prototype survived and it belongs to a collector in Switzerland.

I'd be inclined to believe him.

But I believe he maybe refering to the first editions 1990 manufacture not like the ebayer?

Do you concur?

I'd say so.

Over the 90's, something must have prompted GT to move the gusseting from the top tube to the down tube.

At this point, I don't have any view on the sellers honesty. It would be good to get to the bottom of this. Time will tell.

I don't know If I'd believe that video, after all he starts off by saying with a big shit-eatin grin that he's down i the deep dark mountains in Switzerland... While Hans was an important figure with GT he was not constantly at the factory and wouldn't really have any knowledge on how many prototype frames were ever made in the first place. As fast as things moved around the production floor he'd have needed to be there 100% of the time to know that.

 

[Neil]

still awaiting any123's report from the field...regrading a likely Backwoods or Tempest frame that has had the paint stripped off it.

going tomoz after 6. i will take some pics dont worry guys. does anyone know the code to post pics in the forum topic. i used to use apple gallery but now thats gone i use smugmug and i cant do the link for photos to show up in forum

thanks andy

Did manana ever come? And if so, what's the scoop?

'cos we went from hand-waving dismissal of all the sceptics by the seller, to yanking the auction, and what appears to be a big rubbery one - so, um, where's all this talk of rare prototype, now?