Pistonhead's Lewis Hamilton Photoshop Thread

[Neil]

It's funny the amount of parrot fashion repetition from the media that goes on in forumworld.... Jenson tyre management this, Lewis fast but knobhead celebrity wannabe that... everyone thinks they are an expert, when in fact, none of us really have the slightest clue what goes on behind closed doors, in the cockpit or at home, so to class someone a knobhead based on his media portrayal, is a tad harsh (note, I am not going to get drawn into a discussion about details about this)

No it's not - (a tad harsh).

Whilst he may have very little control of what the media say about him, he has all the control in the world about what he does / says when he is in the public view.

As to armchair experts - well of course there's always that factor. However, many people will have been watching motorsport for decades (not just this brief period) and have seen drivers come and go, have watched with their own eyes how drivers perform, where they do well, where they don't, and can also read / listen / observe informed commment.

The irony? Your sweeping generalisations of commentary here, is just as bad as the criticism you make of it by people here, on drivers like Button and Hamilton.

I'm just saying...

 

[unkleGsif]

......he has all the control in the world about what he does / says when he is in the public view.

apart from the one incident in monaco, give me one good example of anything he has said that portrays him as being a knobhead

What sweeping generalisations have I made?
I made no judgements. I cast no aspertions (unlike some). I insulted nobody. I have made none

I merely commented that there is more to people than what we see or hear. We are not close freinds of theirs, or family, so do not get to see the real picture

SHITE, I said I wont be drawn into this... if anyone thinks anyone else out there in the world is a knobhead or whatever, then fine. People have their opinions, I have mine

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[Neil G]

Quite funny

I'm not a big Hamilton fan

 

[Neil]

......he has all the control in the world about what he does / says when he is in the public view.

apart from the one incident in monaco, give me one good example of anything he has said that portrays him as being a knobhead

Um that was a very big example.

But plenty of other, more general things. I mean, come on - fecking around with bloody earrings for feck's sake, when he should be more concerned with his driving and his training.

What sweeping generalisations have I made?

Um that big first paragraph you wrote, that you conveniently snipped...

Here, I'll add it back in for context:-

It's funny the amount of parrot fashion repetition from the media that goes on in forumworld.... Jenson tyre management this, Lewis fast but knobhead celebrity wannabe that... everyone thinks they are an expert, when in fact, none of us really have the slightest clue what goes on behind closed doors, in the cockpit or at home....

I merely commented that there is more to people than what we see or hear. We are not close freinds of theirs, or family, so do not get to see the real picture

I have no real issue with that, but to say that's not all you merely commented, and when people are in the public eye, they can expect (in fact many of them probably want it) the public to care, make comment, and draw inferences.

SHITE, I said I wont be drawn into this... if anyone thinks anyone else out there in the world is a knobhead or whatever, then fine. People have their opinions, I have mine

Do, don't do, say what you want - either comment on it, or don't comment on it, but whinging about what you will or won't be drawn into is just tedious.

Nobody puts a gun to your head to either read or reply to a thread, so spare me the "under protest" thing - quit the foreplay and either do, or don't.

If you wanna say something in a discussion, then say it, if you don't wanna take part, don't - but the faux, "I really don't wanna do this, no really, I don't, oh, well, go on then, two sugars and a bicky, please..." is just pointless.

 

[FMJ]

The apple rarely falls far from the tree.

 

[Grannygrinder]

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I'm sure i just read something along the lines of 'Lewis has problems overtaking' are you having a laugh :roll:
I admit he may have issues not crashing while he's doing it, but if the odds are 3 from 10 or better he'll go for it.
I'd say he's still the most aggressive driver on the grid.

 

[Neil]

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I'm sure i just read something along the lines of 'Lewis has problems overtaking' are you having a laugh :roll:

Not sure who wrote that - but point being, if there's a big risk in doing it, it's not helping.

Look at how many "incidents" he had this season. And as we're comparing with Button, look at Button's ability at overtaking. Button's race at Brazil in his championship year, was a big eye-opener for me.

I admit he may have issues not crashing while he's doing it, but if the odds are 3 from 10 or better he'll go for it.
I'd say he's still the most aggressive driver on the grid.

That's the thing, though. Being good at overtaking isn't just about daring to go for it - or even having the speed to get you to that point, it's as much about what you do then, as to what you attempt.

Being good at overtaking, isn't just trying as many outlandish maneouvres as possible, in the desparate hope one will stick - it's about managing it cleanly, without contact, and actually getting benefit from the maneouvre.

 

[FMJ]

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I'd say he's still the most aggressive driver on the grid.

Was (arguably) the most aggressive driver on the grid. There's that little Finnish guy coming back this year driving for Lotus. They don't call him the Ice Man because it's cold where he comes from.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U75LVQzeHw4&feature=related

Your boy Lewis ran into the back of him at a red light at the pit exit in Montreal in 08. That was a swift move.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ujVU6C7VKk

 

[Grannygrinder]

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Has he still got 'it' though?
He can't drive a rally car for figs

 

[davew]

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I'm sure i just read something along the lines of 'Lewis has problems overtaking' are you having a laugh :roll:
I admit he may have issues not crashing while he's doing it, but if the odds are 3 from 10 or better he'll go for it.
I'd say he's still the most aggressive driver on the grid.

I said that, I would have thought it obvious and the stats from 2011 back it up. Hamilton didn't even make it into the top 10 in the stats for overtakes for position by the end of the season.

The most aggressive driver on the grid for my money would probably be Kobayashi, who also had more overtakes for position in 2011 than Hamilton did.

Hamilton showed how poor an overtaker he was when he was behind Schumacher at Italy, bleating on the radio about how unfair it was that he couldn't force his way past. Especially highlighted by Button cruising up to them and overtaking Hamilton then Schumacher while Hamilton still failed to get past Schumacher.