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It's not a rare occurrence, just underreported outside the middle East
Paris. Not Good News.
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Harryburgundy
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Well said Makster
My thoughts this morning are with those poor people who have lost their lives and their families. Just too sad.
I don't think this morning is the time for political debate but I have to counter a rather silly comment.
'France has closed its borders now...too expletive late'
I should imagine that is to try and prevent any terrorists and their accomplices from escaping France. The implication that these terrorists entered France in the recent refugee influx is the narrative of the likes of The Daily Mail and The Sun.
Well said Makster
My thoughts this morning are with those poor people who have lost their lives and their families. Just too sad.
I don't think this morning is the time for political debate but I have to counter a rather silly comment.
'France has closed its borders now...too expletive late'
I should imagine that is to try and prevent any terrorists and their accomplices from escaping France. The implication that these terrorists entered France in the recent refugee influx is the narrative of the likes of The Daily Mail and The Sun.
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I'm sickened by the whole thing since watching the World Trade Centre live on tv.
The dead are dead and theres nothing we can do for them, as much as we want to bring them back.
I just cant get whats in the heads of these people - to point a gun at someone enjoying a rock group or a coffee or a beer or football or just walking home to their family or friends and pull a trigger.
I can only shake my head and despair at the world.
The dead are dead and theres nothing we can do for them, as much as we want to bring them back.
I just cant get whats in the heads of these people - to point a gun at someone enjoying a rock group or a coffee or a beer or football or just walking home to their family or friends and pull a trigger.
I can only shake my head and despair at the world.
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Suspect that's not the case, Mike. The world is a very safe place compared to most of human history. You don't even have to go back even a century to find scarier times (cf both world wars - plus the flu epidemic after the first, and the cold war after the second).
I suspect what's changed is that the reporting is more intimate and immediate than ever before - and we are perhaps less hardened to random loss of life to violence (this being a good thing perhaps).
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Suspect that's not the case, Mike. The world is a very safe place compared to most of human history. You don't even have to go back even a century to find scarier times (cf both world wars - plus the flu epidemic after the first, and the cold war after the second).
I suspect what's changed is that the reporting is more intimate and immediate than ever before - and we are perhaps less hardened to random loss of life to violence (this being a good thing perhaps).
highlandsflyer
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Hope our Paris members are all safe.
Overwhelming international force ought to get in on the ground in the trouble areas, protect civilians and drive out the extremists in collaboration with those who have access to their networks.
Bombing and drones are no solution on their own.
International forces should resolve to tidy up after ourselves properly for once, and do all with compassion and understanding, and make no plans to leave.
Sitting back, folding our arms and tut tutting is not going to make us safer. (Though 'we' are already safe, on the whole.)
The long term solution to these types of outrage seems clear to me. The upper ranks within Islam need to reach out further and educate. No one should be subject to the radicalisation that results in actions like last night's. They are being sold a lie; and as long as they believe attacking innocent people will guarantee them heaven, this will keep happening.
It is a death cult that needs to be stamped out. Only Islam itself can reach out to these people and make it clear how misguided they are.
Hope our Paris members are all safe.
Overwhelming international force ought to get in on the ground in the trouble areas, protect civilians and drive out the extremists in collaboration with those who have access to their networks.
Bombing and drones are no solution on their own.
International forces should resolve to tidy up after ourselves properly for once, and do all with compassion and understanding, and make no plans to leave.
Sitting back, folding our arms and tut tutting is not going to make us safer. (Though 'we' are already safe, on the whole.)
The long term solution to these types of outrage seems clear to me. The upper ranks within Islam need to reach out further and educate. No one should be subject to the radicalisation that results in actions like last night's. They are being sold a lie; and as long as they believe attacking innocent people will guarantee them heaven, this will keep happening.
It is a death cult that needs to be stamped out. Only Islam itself can reach out to these people and make it clear how misguided they are.
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i dont think the islamic leaders can reach out to these terrorists.
thats is what they are. terrorists.
thats is what they are. terrorists.
highlandsflyer
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Colonel Richard Justin Kemp has more or less echoed what I said about tackling IS.
Of course Islamic leaders can reach out. They are killing in the name of Islam. They need to be put right about that.
How about issuing a fatwa outlawing IS?
Easy enough for all Islamic leaders to do that.
"Over 1000 Islamic clerics and organisations issue fatwa against ISIS"
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-ov ... is-2123290
Of course Islamic leaders can reach out. They are killing in the name of Islam. They need to be put right about that.
How about issuing a fatwa outlawing IS?
Easy enough for all Islamic leaders to do that.
"Over 1000 Islamic clerics and organisations issue fatwa against ISIS"
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-ov ... is-2123290
