Panaracer UK website sale plus 20% discount

[d8mok]

This is what you will receive. They use the expensive versions pictures

 

[pwebb]

By way of clarification, these were the last batch of Panaracer smoke received from Velo Store. I don't believe they are the same 'cheaper' items in the previous posts, they are, however, made in Thailand and not Japan and that would also account for the TH designation. I prefer these tyres to the modern reimagining of Smokes and Darts ( which I also have btw) which have the added word 'classic' next to the logo

 

[d8mok]

Yeh they are the cheap ones.

Non folding?

You can get the good ones for £64 a pair inc delivery on the Panaracer site. They sell even as used tyres for £50 so not bad value

 

[pwebb]

Above were folding not wired btw. I have recently bought Smoke and dart 'classic' from Merlin Cycles in Lancashire at approximately £60 the pair and there is not a lot to choose between them and the velo store ones from Thailand to be honest, both very similar compound, side wall thickness and colour, only the logos are different IMHO

 

[d8mok]

Above were folding not wired btw. I have recently bought Smoke and dart 'classic' from Merlin Cycles in Lancashire at approximately £60 the pair and there is not a lot to choose between them and the velo store ones from Thailand to be honest, both very similar compound, side wall thickness and colour, only the logos are different IMHO

How much landed did the cheaper ones cost?

If they are folding , it seems strange they package them like a wired tyre (not folded)


If they cheap enough I’d have a pair on some of my cheaper builds as keep buying the others at £60 mounts up. I’ve 15 pairs now and need another 3.

 

[pwebb]

IIRC 6 tyres + £20 FedEx comes to circa £95.
I guess like with all things, you gets what you pays for, these are undoubtedly cheap tyres in cheap packaging, compared to the gravel kings I just bought from Panaracer UK there is no comparison, to be expected at more than double the cost.