Pace...where's it all going?

[Dr S]

.. its the lightest long travel frame you can buy

Another example of the bullshit that you get from manufacturers. Cotic BFe is built for 150 forks and weighs in at 5.3lbs and passes all the latest CEN tests without resorting to ugly gussets all over the place. The Soul which will happily run a 140mm fork and 2,4 tyres comes in at a shade under 4.4lbs- again CEN passed without a gusset in sight. I have spent a year trying to break one too and its plenty strong enough. I've just used those two as an example as I know how much they weigh on my own scales, there will be many more that are lighter no doubt.

Don't believe everything you read. Any bike can be the lightest in its class if you invent a class that only it sits in. Another example of slick marketing!


@Jerky, don't be nosey and start saving

 

[justbackdated]

Dr S its the lightest long travel frame you can buy, its a full on 150mm travel hardtail, you can not campare it to a Pace, im not being biast iv got both, and i no for a fact i will never go out on a ride on the Pace again, the Pace is old its feels like an old thing thats made of rubbish alloy, its a race machine not a burly hardtail, these are too complete diffrent bikes PAce being alloy and Ragley being steel ALTHOUGH you can do anything on the Raglay but hardly anything on the Pace.
Pace couldnt get it right from the start thats why there welder left and production ceased because they made the biggest cockup of all time :roll:

Pace used top quality alloy and built the frames to be used as pure racing machines which was the fashion of the time. The frames were built over 7 or 8 years using the square tubing with cutting edge improvements made every year culminating in the RC300 which pushed the boundaries of the restrictions of the raw material. There was no-where else to go with the square tube design.
Dean the framebuilder left Pace because he went to live in Australia; nothing to do with framebuilding.

 

[graham1975]

I was told he left because they never did the 2nd heat treatment on the frames and thats why they were prone to cracking, the cotic is not a full on long travel bike, it will suit from a 100mm upto 150mm, 100mm is not classed as a long travel bike, to me thats a VERY heavy race machine frame!
The Ragley is the lightest LONG travel bike which will suit 130mm upto 150mm it is ONLY a long travel bike unlike the Cotics, that is what im saying
Also the Ragley is the only long travel bike to pass the NEW CEN tests, there is no mention of the Cotics doing so as yet, well not that i can find anyway.
If you ask me all bike should pass it now adays

 

[graham1975]

Here is my Ragley build, as you can see this frame is NOT ugly by any means, its a truely stunning bike to look at aswell as ride, yes the Pace is a stunning looking bike but a real pig to ride.

 

[MikeD]

Nobody's coming out of this discussion looking very objective, are they?

Blue Pig isn't 853, it's some sort of chromoly. Saying it's "a bit porky" seems disingenous - a claimed 5.5lb vs a claimed 5.4lb for the (more expensive, 853/631 tubed) BFe doesn't seem unreasonable. There's nothing at all wrong with Taiwanese frame manufacture, and Taiwanese welders make a decent living and generally own at least one pair of shoes

 

[JeRkY]

The only thing I'm really objecting to on this page is a 20 year old race bred pace design being compared to a modern Long travel hardcore tank of a bike. Like comparing a sprinter to a boxer.


To be honest if you dislike the RC200 so much, I would gladly swap it for my 2010 1 month old inbred.

 

[JeRkY]

@Jerky, don't be nosey and start saving

lol will you take a couple of Roberts in exchange?

Genuinely interested in your project however!

 

[MJN]

Dude, that Ragly is fugly! What's happened to truley beautiful bikes? Steel bikes used to look skinny and slinky now these long travel piles are just horrid and from the amount I pass downhill they're not that great either! I do like the look of the steel Pace frames though, if only they weren't from the far east :-(

 

[graham1975]

LOL ill hold my hands up its not 853 it is a chromoly 4130 triple butted frame.
It even says it on the frame.
Why on earth would 100g mean anything anyway,its definatly not worth the extra £120, its not even a mouth full of juice out opf the camelback, and im 14stone not 8 so weight isnt important to me anyway, i wanted the Bluepig because i live 5 miles away from ragley woods in calderdale which is were the frame is named after and it kind of like means something to me

 

[graham1975]

The Ragley is built as a hardcore all mountain weapon, im not 1 of these wussies that ploddle along the canalbank with my grandma in toe, i use it for huge drop offs like in Midgley woods with the DONT LOOK DOWN DROP OFF and the 7 stanes trail centre, and the Ragley is perfectly suited to that type of terrain, i have even blasted down the downhill course at fort william in 6.2 mins on it thats how tuff that machine is, i use it for what it is intended for unlike most people
Ill agree with you i see loads of idiots bouncing around carparks on specialized and orange piles of shite and they will never use more than 80mm of travel, total idiots