orange clockwork tubing

[brocklanders023]

'On-One of the retro world'.... :shock: :evil: Don't think that's quite fair tbh.

Seem to remember Orange using some lower groupsets on the C16 so they could keep a bike at the £500 price bracket. They also said the quality of the lower groupsets had improved so were a viable option. You don't see many with anything lower then STX and by the time they were using it it had replaced LX in the Shimano line up.

 

[FluffyChicken]

'On-One of the retro world'.... :shock: :evil: Don't think that's quite fair tbh.

Seem to remember Orange using some lower groupsets on the C16 so they could keep a bike at the £500 price bracket. They also said the quality of the lower groupsets had improved so were a viable option. You don't see many with anything lower then STX and by the time they were using it it had replaced LX in the Shimano line up.

Small UK company with mass produced, much bought and wanted bikes of the era. Buy frame and equip it with your setup ?
Sounds very much like On-One to me.

I had a Prestige and a Clockwork, mates had the Alu's and I have absolutely nothing against them. Still would buy a Prestige in a nice black at 19" size, with Alu forks... then I could wear my Take The pith T-shirt again

I thought they dropped into the Alivio range ? (I class STX as LX replacement when LX morphed in to DX's shoes)

P.S. I think you need to find a Prestige to complete your line up

 

[dyna-ti]

It's cheap tubing with a Tange brand in fact the lowest in their brand at the time, hence the price range of Clockworks

When i bought my clockwork frame[1999] it cost i think £300.the P7 was £400
I dont think theres that big a difference really :?

Plus-
I dont believe there is any physically noticeable difference be it Tange,Reynolds,plain,double butted,triple butted quadruple butted with a twist,501,531,50000000000017
:roll:
Steel rusts,alloy and Ti cracks

 

[FluffyChicken]

It's cheap tubing with a Tange brand in fact the lowest in their brand at the time, hence the price range of Clockworks

When i bought my clockwork frame[1999] it cost i think £300.the P7 was £400
I dont think theres that big a difference really :?

Plus-
I dont believe there is any physically noticeable difference be it Tange,Reynolds,plain,double butted,triple butted quadruple butted with a twist,501,531,50000000000017
:roll:
Steel rusts,alloy and Ti cracks

P7 is a different beast and nowt to do with Prestige plus your talking 6 years later here
and yes there is physically a difference in the feel of the frame.
Clockwork '93 F&F = £230 (~350 in todays money)
Prestige '93 F&F = £333 (500 in todays money)

Prestige was around 1/2lb lighter, didn't 'feel' as stiff, but felt better, swifter and less 'clunky/chuggy' to ride.
Though you wouldn't break a Clockwork, the Prestige on the other hand wasn't something you dropped against a lamppost.

 

[drbond1978]

Interesting to note that the stif ad says there is only a half pound difference in weight between the prestige and clockwork...

Perhaps the prestige feels a bit more nippy (never ridden one) but not as much diff weight wise as I'd have expected.

Maybe I'll hold off bidding on that ebay one down in dorset - clockwork will do just fine...

 

[FluffyChicken]

Just had a thought by 1993 or was it 1994 they move to Ultimate tubing in the Prestige frame ?


and yes a move from Infinity to Prestige taking lightest DB tubing then it 10 to 15% weight saving, so about 1/2lb if doing nothing fancy

 

[brocklanders023]

'On-One of the retro world'.... :shock: :evil: Don't think that's quite fair tbh.

Seem to remember Orange using some lower groupsets on the C16 so they could keep a bike at the £500 price bracket. They also said the quality of the lower groupsets had improved so were a viable option. You don't see many with anything lower then STX and by the time they were using it it had replaced LX in the Shimano line up.

Small UK company with mass produced, much bought and wanted bikes of the era. Buy frame and equip it with your setup ?
Sounds very much like On-One to me.

I thought they dropped into the Alivio range ? (I class STX as LX replacement when LX morphed in to DX's shoes)

P.S. I think you need to find a Prestige to complete your line up

I'll give you that but believe Orange's have always been classed as at least better then average where as On-Ones are chucked out as cheap frames with more thought put into the design then you'll usually find at the price point. :?

Am planning on getting another Prestige some time soon but will wait for the right one to turn up. First frame I got off RB was a Prestige and I couldn't believe how much thinner the tubes were compared to a Clockwork or P7. Never built it as I got hold of a complete Clockwork but it's defo an itch I need to scratch.

 

[brocklanders023]

Just looked at the tube decal on my 1993 Clockwork and that states 'Infinity MTB, cro-mo tapered double butted tubing'.