Hi again Sam. You've certainly got taste in bikes for my mind 
Both stunning reds, both top end frames of their day, both immaculate condition paint jobs.
For my mind these are beautiful club riders, and though equally fit to race, an unlikely a thought for most I would guess. Point is though Sam, I can't see you or anyone genuinely riding one of these with a baby seat fitted
I wouldn't because both have reasons not to. 1 of them has beautiful decals down the seattube right where the baby seat clamp would go and would definately pickup damage to the decals, the other has bottle bosses fitted. Not too much of a problem BUT .... IMHO a weakened seattube area for the kinds of extra stresses the babyseat would apply to the area.
Babyseats "push" on the seattube horizontally, not 100%, but enough to increase the loads against that weakened area. Vertically the seattube suffers no weakening, hence bottle bosses are OK persay. Basically, these kinds of bike are simply not designed to take extra loads like a babyseat, especially without a pannier rack fitted to ease the loads.
Hopefully you can see from this small example, how hard it will be for you to buy 1 bike for 2 jobs It's not mission impossible Sam, but you'll have your work cut out if you have a limited knowledge of bikes finding the bike you want.
I ultimately conceded defeat and used an old (but excellent) MTB for baby carrying. Greater stability, easier to handle steering with straight bars, softer ride for "mini me in the back", more comfort to ride, bike easily stored in the back in the rain. Ran that bike into the ground and had fun doing it too, so did mini me
Perhaps here my friend is where "cake" and "eating" might sway your thoughts
I'll leave you with this thought " what is it you love so much about that bike from the past ? That elusive Reynolds 753 fitted with Super Record Campagnolo ? " (my own dreams)
Perhaps its appeal was/is that it is beautiful aerodynamical perfection, sleak lines, tight frame angles, gleaming paint work, skinny wheels, smooth on the road. As my now grown mini me says " Dad its pure freedom" Ask yourself Sam if there is room for a babyseat on your dream bike
I'd find this a tough one to call myself Sam, but like I say, its not mission impossible, just going to take some serious thought. Hope this helps you some. Take care and if you think I can help out in any way, just PM me or make a post. I pop in most days of the week for a browse. Yours Laz.
edit: The issue re: "too far on the reach" is solved by bringing the saddle forward slightly and using a shorter handlebar stem. Bike geometries are wierd in that people with long legs can have short bodies ie: distance to bottom of stride when pedalling can be long, but distance from saddle to handlebars short. This goes in every direction you can think of and most riders in here "know" their measurements & settings so can buy accordingly.
Try a bike shop for a fitting a make a good note of frame size, crank length, handle bar stem length (toptube length). Its not super critical, but you have to buy within reason Sam. A few mm won't over do you, but a bit more than that can. Over reach for the bars will do your back in. Too long in the cranks > saddle will stretch your legs. It sounds complex, but its not Sam. Once you know "your size", you simply buy whats needed.
If you buy the wrong bike size, you'll know within 10miles. If you ignore this it will tell you loudly after 20miles. Ignore that and you'll need a good rest to recover from over stretched hamstrings, ligaments, muscles.
Recently did a 32mile run with my saddle 25mm too high. Knew it when I set off after a few miles but ignored it. Paid the price when I got home. Won't be doing that again There is a first for everything they say, just thought it was me getting older and a bit tighter in the muscles and joints. Lesson learnt well by me Later Sam
Both stunning reds, both top end frames of their day, both immaculate condition paint jobs.For my mind these are beautiful club riders, and though equally fit to race, an unlikely a thought for most I would guess. Point is though Sam, I can't see you or anyone genuinely riding one of these with a baby seat fitted
I wouldn't because both have reasons not to. 1 of them has beautiful decals down the seattube right where the baby seat clamp would go and would definately pickup damage to the decals, the other has bottle bosses fitted. Not too much of a problem BUT .... IMHO a weakened seattube area for the kinds of extra stresses the babyseat would apply to the area.
Babyseats "push" on the seattube horizontally, not 100%, but enough to increase the loads against that weakened area. Vertically the seattube suffers no weakening, hence bottle bosses are OK persay. Basically, these kinds of bike are simply not designed to take extra loads like a babyseat, especially without a pannier rack fitted to ease the loads.
Hopefully you can see from this small example, how hard it will be for you to buy 1 bike for 2 jobs
It's not mission impossible Sam, but you'll have your work cut out if you have a limited knowledge of bikes finding the bike you want.I ultimately conceded defeat and used an old (but excellent) MTB for baby carrying. Greater stability, easier to handle steering with straight bars, softer ride for "mini me in the back", more comfort to ride, bike easily stored in the back in the rain. Ran that bike into the ground and had fun doing it too, so did mini me
Perhaps here my friend is where "cake" and "eating" might sway your thoughts
I'll leave you with this thought " what is it you love so much about that bike from the past ? That elusive Reynolds 753 fitted with Super Record Campagnolo ? " (my own dreams)
Perhaps its appeal was/is that it is beautiful aerodynamical perfection, sleak lines, tight frame angles, gleaming paint work, skinny wheels, smooth on the road. As my now grown mini me says " Dad its pure freedom"
Ask yourself Sam if there is room for a babyseat on your dream bike I'd find this a tough one to call myself Sam, but like I say, its not mission impossible, just going to take some serious thought. Hope this helps you some. Take care and if you think I can help out in any way, just PM me or make a post. I pop in most days of the week for a browse. Yours Laz.
edit: The issue re: "too far on the reach" is solved by bringing the saddle forward slightly and using a shorter handlebar stem. Bike geometries are wierd in that people with long legs can have short bodies ie: distance to bottom of stride when pedalling can be long, but distance from saddle to handlebars short. This goes in every direction you can think of and most riders in here "know" their measurements & settings so can buy accordingly.
Try a bike shop for a fitting a make a good note of frame size, crank length, handle bar stem length (toptube length). Its not super critical, but you have to buy within reason Sam. A few mm won't over do you, but a bit more than that can. Over reach for the bars will do your back in. Too long in the cranks > saddle will stretch your legs. It sounds complex, but its not Sam. Once you know "your size", you simply buy whats needed.
If you buy the wrong bike size, you'll know within 10miles. If you ignore this it will tell you loudly after 20miles. Ignore that and you'll need a good rest to recover from over stretched hamstrings, ligaments, muscles.
Recently did a 32mile run with my saddle 25mm too high. Knew it when I set off after a few miles but ignored it. Paid the price when I got home. Won't be doing that again
There is a first for everything they say, just thought it was me getting older and a bit tighter in the muscles and joints. Lesson learnt well by me Later Sam
