Mine please

[JeRkY]

I like the bike, I like the build and I am even partial to slicking up mountain bikes for road use.

However I reserve the right to disagree vocally with any one on this forum should I not like something. Criticism shouldn't be frowned upon. And I am sincerely hopeful that you wouldn't punch some one in the face if they met you on the street and suggested your bike should be running different tyres, it might be viewed as a slight over reaction.

Any way, really nice looking bike, I'll go read your other posts about it now.

 

[FMJ]

However I reserve the right to disagree vocally with any one on this forum should I not like something..

When you say disagree vocally (well, in type, really), I'm sure you mean put forth some constructive criticism. I don't see complaints about constructive criticism above. I do see a snide remark made by someone (in)famous for making snide remarks raising hackles, however.

 

[leedeerman]

Nice bike, what slicks are they?

Specialized FatBoy 100% slick, scary in the wet!!

 

[Dr S]

The problem with these web forums is some users are more interested in getting one up on the next user with their so called knowledge and opionins trying to be the better man, at the end of the day its just a BIKE, and if they had the balls to say it to the persons face (which I very much doubt) they'd get a punch in the face.

Yes I have got the arse, I might take the whole lot dowm.

Its a shame the Mod's would frown on the use of the words Knob and Dickhead.

If you cant sat anything constructive dont say anything atall.

Lee.

Ouch, a little harsh there Lee. You would punch someone in the face for disliking your tyre choice?
What happened if someone pointed out that the blue ano seatpost and cage don't quite match?

Take it easy dude.

 

[julesg007]

Well I like it.

At the end of the day it's your bike and you can do what the hell you like with it and bugger what anyone else thinks or says IMO!

I have been riding roaded MTB frames for years and have never regretted doing so. In fact my next build is another one and this time on a Ti frame and a using a 11-23 Ultegra cassette and 52/39/30 chain rings and I don't think I'll ever change back to a 700c wheeled bike. The wheels will be shod with Specialized All Condition Pro II tyres which are high pressure (120 PSI) 1" wide jobbies.

I've also riden Fatboys (1.25" 100PSI) in the past - yes scary looking things being bald as a badgers backside but they never let me down even in the wet. I've also ridden Tioga City Slickers (1.95" 90PSI) and Conti Grand Prix's (1" 110PSI) for the record.

Enjoy your bike.

 

[andrewl]

As far as the 'build factor' is concerned, in my eyes, it is a classic period build...

By period do you mean most of the 90s??

What else?? :roll:

The overall appearance gives the impression it was built 'as is' BiTD, not a modern 'retro' build; as such it has an attraction all of its own.

And having just looked at the >97 thread it seems I was right...

With a parts spread over at least a 9 year period yes it definitely suggests a rider with upgrades over the years, but I think saying built as is back in the day is a bit nonsensical as the current build doesn't reflect anything other than the last changes with parts newer than what people commonly refer to as back in the day.

 

[We_are_Stevo]

As far as the 'build factor' is concerned, in my eyes, it is a classic period build...

By period do you mean most of the 90s??

What else?? :roll:

The overall appearance gives the impression it was built 'as is' BiTD, not a modern 'retro' build; as such it has an attraction all of its own.

And having just looked at the >97 thread it seems I was right...

With a parts spread over at least a 9 year period yes it definitely suggests a rider with upgrades over the years, but I think saying built as is back in the day is a bit nonsensical as the current build doesn't reflect anything other than the last changes with parts newer than what people commonly refer to as back in the day.

I disagree; what you generally see on here (and I'm just as guilty myself with my Ritchey-clad 'Kili Wot...') is people building a bike with a component choice they could only dream about BiTD - incidentally, at 51-going-on-15 I'm very much BiTD myself - which accounts for the amount of XTR you see thrown at bikes that wouldn't have had it then.

This Punisher has been in the same family for donkeys years and lovingly restored to the condition it was in originally, but owing to the fact said restoration started BiTD it's a real time-warp beaut - and there's nothing 'nonsensical' about that...

 

[andrewl]

I disagree; what you generally see on here (and I'm just as guilty myself with my Ritchey-clad 'Kili Wot...') is people building a bike with a component choice they could only dream about BiTD - incidentally, at 51-going-on-15 I'm very much BiTD myself - which accounts for the amount of XTR you see thrown at bikes that wouldn't have had it then.

This Punisher has been in the same family for donkeys years and lovingly restored to the condition it was in originally, but owing to the fact said restoration started BiTD it's a real time-warp beaut - and there's nothing 'nonsensical' about that...

It's cool I know what you are getting at, I simply think that saying its built as the owner wanted BiTD is too loose as the time scale of the components is too broad.

For example its an 80s frame which was obtained by the current owner in early 90s. The disc was added in 94 and would represent an upgrade BiTD. If the rest of the components dated from 94ish then I'd happily say it represents a BiTD build but... The rear derailleur is a 9 speed item as shown in the photo and wouldn't have appeared at least some 5 years after, the rear brake and lever also look to be M951 versions and hence wouldn't have existed BiTD (ie circa 94).

So all I'm saying is - in an over a beer post ride discussion is that in my opinion BiTD is a poor description as the bike has been upgraded many times in its life and thus its a LTR* (Long Term Rider).

* Sorry I couldn't think of any other suitable acronym...

 

[unkleGsif]

In my view, mid to late 90's IS "back in the day".... after all, its not that recent anymore

Stuff like this is utterly subjective.... what one person considers "retro" is another persons "too modern". There are some riders on here that consider early 90's too modern, so to them "BITD" would date from the late 80's, while I on the other hand despite a brief foray into biking in my early teens on an '89 Raleigh Montage, then '91 Marin Palisades, stepped away in favour of drinking, girls, and rock music untill the late 90's.... so to me, BITD is from '97 on (however I do utterly respect and appreciate the heritage of riders, bikes and parts)

SO... its a lovely bike, with lots of lovely bits that Lee obviously adores
Lets leave it at that

G

 

[We_are_Stevo]

In my view, mid to late 90's IS "back in the day".... after all, its not that recent anymore

Stuff like this is utterly subjective.... what one person considers "retro" is another persons "too modern". There are some riders on here that consider early 90's too modern, so to them "BITD" would date from the late 80's, while I on the other hand despite a brief foray into biking in my early teens on an '89 Raleigh Montage, then '91 Marin Palisades, stepped away in favour of drinking, girls, and rock music untill the late 90's.... so to me, BITD is from '97 on (however I do utterly respect and appreciate the heritage of riders, bikes and parts)

SO... its a lovely bike, with lots of lovely bits that Lee obviously adores
Lets leave it at that

G

A man after my own heart, though I seem to have had a few years head start...

As for the thread, I'm backing out whilst I can; lovely bike