Lewis Hamilton..what a bellend

[Neil]

I think you are all jealous and it's just sour grapes .... :?

For a very good reason

And another thing... sorry, I'm playing through - Fore!

Doesn't some thing strike you as decidedly "off" with this whole thing with him and her?

Convenience, a bit of bling for either, or good press? I mean do you see genuine boyfriend and girlfriend with 'em both, or just something good for both for the glossies?

Maybe I'm just too cynical...

 

[highlandsflyer]

Well you see light-hearted, jokey - I see lost-his-cool-and-put-his-foot-in-his-mouth, then deftly played the joke card when he'd quickly realised the implications of making serious implications

The kid is sharp, but I don't credit him with such quick thinking.

For anyone who is thinking a young man who has grown up as a black man in England would be racist even if he were to jump to the conclusion he was being victimised due to his heritage you are very wide of the mark.

Not for a minute would I agree that is what he did.

He made a joke.

If you are ignorant to the origins of the whole 'Is it because I am black?', do some research.

The only racism involved in this whole issue is on the part of those who are suggesting he was playing the race card when he was obviously making a joke, and using an expression which is all about the race card...

The only reason anyone is criticizing him for using that expression is that he is black.

That is racism.

 

[highlandsflyer]

I think you are all jealous and it's just sour grapes .... :?

For a very good reason

And another thing... sorry, I'm playing through - Fore!

Doesn't some thing strike you as decidedly "off" with this whole thing with him and her?

Convenience, a bit of bling for either, or good press? I mean do you see genuine boyfriend and girlfriend with 'em both, or just something good for both for the glossies?

Maybe I'm just too cynical...

I think you are going beyond objectivity.

 

[old_coyote_pedaller]

[Charlie Brown mode on]Good grief.[Charlie Brown mode off]

 

[Neil]

Well you see light-hearted, jokey - I see lost-his-cool-and-put-his-foot-in-his-mouth, then deftly played the joke card when he'd quickly realised the implications of making serious implications

The kid is sharp, but I don't credit him with such quick thinking.

Oh come on, he's an F1 driver FFS.

One word: swerve.

For anyone who is thinking a young man who has grown up as a black man in England would be racist even if he were to jump to the conclusion he was being victimised due to his heritage you are very wide of the mark.

Let me be clear.

I don't actually think that he thinks, or thought (...could stop there, but I won't) that he was really the victim of racism.

What I do think is that he was a warm, soothing blend of: angry, emotional, frustrated, egotistical. And as a result, stooped to some dire depths to try and make some foolish point about how he felt victimised, then as he was saying it, realised how it sounded, and went with the Ali G comment.

You've only to look at his face, his body language, his tentative grip on his emotions and how he spoke to realise that he was wound tighter than a main spring when he was interviewed. Look at all the other people he had a go at: his team, two other drivers, the ECHR, the croupier in the casino last night, Tony Blair, the guy that trims his "beard", gold earings, Johnny Depp for being cooler than him whilst playing Captain Jack Sparrow, the Romans and their bloody roads, Linton Travel Taverns, the sun, the moon, and the dish for running off with the bloody spoon...

I thiink the big ol' swerve was when these words came spilling out of his mouth, and very quickly, some self-realisation klaaaxxxxooooned in his sweet little noggin, and he realised very quickly, how very badly he was coming across.

Now I'm not saying this as a hater - I get his talent, and whilst I've not bought into being a full blown fan of the guy, I do recognise that he can play a mean pinball. But all the same, he was most stupid, and the swerve was most definitely in when he tried to play it off as a joke.

edit:-

The only reason anyone is criticizing him for using that expression is that he is black.

No, that is not why people are criticising him.

They are criticising him for being stoooopppiiiddd enough to introduce the spectre of racism, when clearly the only reason for him needing to see the stewards so often, was his own damn(-ing) actions. And for then trying the ever-so-clumsy-but-obvious - "Just a joke..." blag when it dawned on him that words mean something.

That is racism.

Rubbish - I don't see anybody criticising him because of his race or colour. Merely because of saying something stupid and inappropriate - and as normal, teflon-shouldering the blame to somebody else, when in a lot of cases it's his own damn fault.

 

[Neil]

I think you are all jealous and it's just sour grapes .... :?
For a very good reason

And another thing... sorry, I'm playing through - Fore!

Doesn't some thing strike you as decidedly "off" with this whole thing with him and her?

Convenience, a bit of bling for either, or good press? I mean do you see genuine boyfriend and girlfriend with 'em both, or just something good for both for the glossies?

Maybe I'm just too cynical...

I think you are going beyond objectivity.

I was emotional, and making a joke.

See how that works?

 

[highlandsflyer]

What you are missing is that the original expression is ironic.

Just research it.

I have encountered it loads of times from black associates, indicating they know it is nothing to do with them being black.

It is humour.

Were you a black man, it might be part of your armoury.

 

[old_coyote_pedaller]

Just watched Good Morning Vietnam there and it's reminded me of this line from Adrian Cronauer,
"You are in more dire need of a blowjob than any white man in history."

 

[Neil]

What you are missing is that the original expression is ironic.

Just research it.

I have encountered it loads of times from black associates, indicating they know it is nothing to do with them being black.

It is humour.

Were you a black man, it might be part of your armoury.

I'm not missing anything.

He knew he had goofed as he was saying it - so did the rest of the world with a sharp-intake-of-breath. He'd been tearing into practically anybody and everybody he'd encountered at Monaco, pointing the finger anywhere, but at himself.

So spare me it just being in-humour that everybody else just didn't get.

He knew almost immediately what a gaff he'd made - if it was as benign and as normal as you'd try to claim, or just some instantly acceptable joke, there would have been no controversy and he wouldn't have looked like he'd just pressed the wrong damn button.

I suspect if you watch the video of it, frame-by-frame it's quite likely you can capture the precise frame where it dawns on him exactly how much he fecked up by saying that.

Still, he could always nip to Switzerland and pop into Alonso's gaff, he'll always get a shoulder to cry on and sympathy, there...

 

[highlandsflyer]

What you are missing is that the original expression is ironic.

Just research it.

I have encountered it loads of times from black associates, indicating they know it is nothing to do with them being black.

It is humour.

Were you a black man, it might be part of your armoury.

I'm not missing anything.

He knew he had goofed as he was saying it - so did the rest of the world with a sharp-intake-of-breath. He'd been tearing into practically anybody and everybody he'd encountered at Monaco, pointing the finger anywhere, but at himself.

So spare me it just being in-humour that everybody else just didn't get.

He knew almost immediately what a gaff he'd made - if it was as benign and as normal as you'd try to claim, or just some instantly acceptable joke, there would have been no controversy and he wouldn't have looked like he'd just pressed the wrong damn button.

I suspect if you watch the video of it, frame-by-frame it's quite likely you can capture the precise frame where it dawns on him exactly how much he fecked up by saying that.

Still, he could always nip to Switzerland and pop into Alonso's gaff, he'll always get a shoulder to cry on and sympathy, there...

Again, you need to do your research.

You obviously have not.

The expression itself is antithetical to the concept of playing the race card, he had no need to add anything to reverse anything.

You are seeing what you want to see.