Kona Explosif 1995 Help with colour to go for page 5

[Stick Legs]

Re: So, how did this damage occur, anyway?

I can't think of how these holes might have come to pass, aside from some fool taking an ice pick to the frame? Anyone have an idea?

Surely this frame is worthy of restoration, and it might be a good excuse to strip and colour as well. I'd do a nice matte charcoal grey with all matte black components + brand new decals = ninja bike!

The holes are there because I used a air tool wire brush to clean the surface rust off the frame, and it removed the rust. Unfortunately the rust was all that was there in a couple of places! No fool or ice pick were involved.

The important question must be whether the holes are the result of rust coming from the inside or of untreated external surface rust. I believe it is possible for it to be the latter, if stone chips have been left untreated and the bike has spent a long time in a damp atmosphere. If that is the case and the metal is full thickness around the hole, the stay could still have almost all of its original strength. But if it has come from the inside, you would expect the metal around about the holes to be damaged/thinner, in which case the strength could be marginal.

Touching wood as I type this, there are remarkably many steel Kona frames still around, considering they weren't sold in very great numbers, so I don't think they generally suffer from rusting from the inside.

I thought it was from local damage outside, the metal seems quite thick around the holes. I got the frame like this, with corrosion, and then used a 'diegrinder' with a wire brush on it to 'bare' the bad bits. That blew through on the chain stay.
As I am the wrong side of my ideal racing weight, and I figured I don't like kona's enough to start with the wholesale restoration of the frame. I was going to get Argos to let in a new stay (about £75) and then blow another £150 on paint and decals.

I gave it away for the price of postage to someone who would do the work and love it. Looks like it's working!

 

[rojo]

Re: So, how did this damage occur, anyway?

I can't think of how these holes might have come to pass, aside from some fool taking an ice pick to the frame? Anyone have an idea?

Surely this frame is worthy of restoration, and it might be a good excuse to strip and colour as well. I'd do a nice matte charcoal grey with all matte black components + brand new decals = ninja bike!

The holes are there because I used a air tool wire brush to clean the surface rust off the frame, and it removed the rust. Unfortunately the rust was all that was there in a couple of places! No fool or ice pick were involved.

The important question must be whether the holes are the result of rust coming from the inside or of untreated external surface rust. I believe it is possible for it to be the latter, if stone chips have been left untreated and the bike has spent a long time in a damp atmosphere. If that is the case and the metal is full thickness around the hole, the stay could still have almost all of its original strength. But if it has come from the inside, you would expect the metal around about the holes to be damaged/thinner, in which case the strength could be marginal.

Touching wood as I type this, there are remarkably many steel Kona frames still around, considering they weren't sold in very great numbers, so I don't think they generally suffer from rusting from the inside.

I thought it was from local damage outside, the metal seems quite thick around the holes. I got the frame like this, with corrosion, and then used a 'diegrinder' with a wire brush on it to 'bare' the bad bits. That blew through on the chain stay.
As I am the wrong side of my ideal racing weight, and I figured I don't like kona's enough to start with the wholesale restoration of the frame. I was going to get Argos to let in a new stay (about £75) and then blow another £150 on paint and decals.

I gave it away for the price of postage to someone who would do the work and love it. Looks like it's working!

Yeah thank you very much for it mate, i have repair and respray sorted with a guy on here to sort it out for me

 

[Stick Legs]

Sorry Rojo, I didn't mean to hi-jack your thread. I was feeling a bit sensitve to criticism and took exception to the 'fool with an ice-pick' comment.

 

[rojo]

Sorry Rojo, I didn't mean to hi-jack your thread. I was feeling a bit sensitve to criticism and took exception to the 'fool with an ice-pick' comment.

no worries mate, I know you didn't attack it. And you have hi-jacked thread

 

[Ally]

Looks like a good project. Ment to comment on it earlier.

What are you're plans for the build Jon?

Any progress pics for us?

 

[rojo]

Looks like a good project. Ment to comment on it earlier.

What are you're plans for the build Jon?

Any progress pics for us?

No progress pic's yet mate still the same as it was at the moment, saving up for the repair and respray.

Got some bombers to go on, and some xtr front and rear mechs for it.

 

[rojo]

Got some parts for when the frame is done.

xtr stuff here pic of what got so far

 

[rojo]

Will be giving it all a good clean before the build

 

[rojo]

Will be giving it all a good clean before the build

 

[coomber]

Looking good.

So are you going to wait until all the other parts are with you before sending off the frame or are you getting frame done first?