Joe Waugh/Dave Yates/M Steel

[peetee]

I’ve always been under the impression that these brands all came from the same workshop. Dave Yates has always been a frame name of repute but to what extent was he responsible for the other marques, if at all, and is every Yates Yates-Built?

 

[foz]

As far as I know, frames under all three names were built by Dave. I think the earlier ones were just M Steel, then the more racing oriented frames were Joe Waugh, and touring/MTB were Dave Yates. But I do vaguely remember being asked which decals I wanted on mine when I got them so I don't think it's a definite "rule" that the names are applied in that way. I don't know if they ever had anyone else building frames, or outsourced anything. For both of mine, I was measured and dealt directly with Dave at the workshop, and assume he himself actually built them. Top bloke, and top frames!

 

[peetee]

Cheers Foz.

 

[Midlife]

I think Dave is selling off all his stuff, post on lfgss somewhere.

 

[Jamiedyer]

I know that Andrew in Edinburgh had bought his old jigs last year. Andrew had built a few frames under Daves watchful eye in the past.

Jamie