jax13":2u6kfgtm said:RockiMtn":2u6kfgtm said:but if you generalize, i would consider grips and pedals as pairs as you wouldn't ride with just one and they are bought as such. however, brakes, levers, shifters, mechs i would not consider pairs and as separate items in the count.
spokes & nipples i'm on the fence about counting individually. :?
ok, but assuming a rigid bike could the same not be said for a frameset rather than frame & forks being 2 items, then would you call it a wheelset as 1 item instead of 2 or a # of components. (the spoke / nipple count is a contentious one but i did say it was assuming a hand-built wheel but 64 could easily be classed as 2 if you called it 1 x 64 spokes & 1 x 64 nips.)
I said about a hand built wheel purely because it isn't an outlandish suggestion whereas a handbuilt mech or shifter from kit-form is a bit OTT for the purposes of a mid afternoon pondering.
You need one fork and one frame. Either could be swapped out for another at any point with everything else kept constant. for instance the fork can be rigid or suspension, and can be swapped out at any time, so no i would still consider frame and fork as separate.
thinking about it, i now lean towards nipples and spokes to be one component on the bike, but one set per wheel. i would see them as like the pedals or grips. it's all or nothing. you can't use half the amount (or any other fraction) to have a working wheel.
so it would be
2 x rim
2 x hub (front & rear)
2 x sets of nipples (32 front & 36 rear)
2 x sets of spokes (32 front & 36 rear)
1 x cassette or cog if SS
2 x tyres
2 x inner tubes
2 x rim tape (optional)
2 x valve caps (optional)