Hobbs of barbican help.

skelley2

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I have a hobbs of barbican that im trying to date.

BB number "326"

GB couriuer hindeium brakes
titan stem
brooks b17 saddle.
wayliss bayley bb

its the 50's maes/titan shape bars.


I'm thinking 50's, could anyone give me a year?
 
Pull out the Titan stem, should have the year on it where inserted in steerer. Might give you a strong clue to the frame if parts are original to it.

For the frame, put up some pictures, people are always really helpful. Be great to see it to!
 
The serial number would fit the numbering scheme described here:

http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/hobbs.html

as a pre-war frame (sequential numbers). Is it possible that a pre-war frame was built up with post-war parts? Let's see the pictures, in any case.

PS couriuer hindeium = coureur (racer) hiduminium (high-durability aluminium)
 
Hobbs Frame Numbers.

Hobbs frame numbers are on the rear dropout and will begin with a letter followed by either three or four numerals.
The letter and first numeral are most relevant. The number on the BB is not the frame number.

One of my (three) Hobbs frames is D1***, so D = April, 1 = 1951, this tallies as my Wife's Dad bought it in the summer of 1951 to make a tour of the Loire Valley.

Hobbs stopped building frames in 1953. Hope this helps...

Roadking.
 
Hobbs.

As previously mentioned the frame number is on rear dropout, the bottom bracket number is irrelevant(just a casting/tooling/die number).

Components are not terribly useful when dating frames...many early English components had quite long production lives, Williams of course had dates on chainsets: this gave no real indication of frame date.

Roadking.
 
on right hand side ( if facing from front)

is A939, thats the best I can make out.

I take it that makes it january 1949?
 
Spot on bro.

January 1949...assumption could be the 39th* frame made in 1949, now we need some pics to identify what Hobbs frame it is.

I have also an January 1950 (A0**), yours is exactly one year older.

Roadking.

*maybe an unsafe assumption.
 
Quite nice blue flam'paint with the white headtube/seattube combo...the downtube transfer is not correct.

Nice glass enamel/brass headbadge, the hubs are Maillard; called"Le Tour"before they were called Maillard - they're a little late for the frame I think.

Wouldn't worry too much about(don't go too modern though), depends what your plans for it are.

Roadking.
 
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