Help me identify this Carlton (67 - 71)

[tehtehteh]

this was my dad's bike when he was a teenager, it's been in the same shed for the last 35 - 40 years, I think it's in great shape all things considering, the wheels still turn, the front brake works, the rear brake almost works, the chain links are all free, can even hear the freewheel ticking

all I know is that it's a Carlton and was bought between 1967 and 1971, I've trawled through google images but can't find one that matches

I'd love to restore it

 

[Midlife]

Corsair? Also available in red..........

Shaun

 

[tehtehteh]

the lugs and decals match, that could be it

 

[Midlife]

Look carefully on the seat tube as the word Corsair should be written through the Olympic rings, also the corsair sometimes came with it's own fork blade decal with the word Corsair through a blue "belt buckle".

Carlton re-used the Corsair name in 1978 when it launched the Corsair as a light tourer as a brother to the Pro-Am.

Spokesmann will be here soon to put the enigma to bed

Shaun

 

[tehtehteh]

unfortunately the decals are too far gone on the seat tube to make out any word, I can just about see there used to be rings there though

 

[AndyMart]

This one?

 

[Midlife]

That's the one I think but the advert shoes an earlier version with the plain lugs.

Here's my 60's Cobra with the plain lugs .......

And here is a Cobra a couple of years later in the 70's with Crespera lugs.

I think the Corsair had the same trick played on it

Shaun

 

[tehtehteh]

thanks chaps that's pretty convincing, also your information lead me to this: https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... 0881,d.ZGg which is the same bike maybe larger, stated as corsair too

I have the bike mostly stripped, except for bottom bracket and headset as I don't have the correct tools, nothing was seized

I think the frame should be sent to a specialist, the rear brake mount has come loose in the seat stay bridge, as you can probably tell from the angle of the rear brake in my photo

the crank cotter pins will need replacing, the bike looks like it was ridden with a loose crank, so wore a big dip in the pin, the other looked like new but I damaged the thread when bashing it out, I also noticed the screw thread on them gets thicker as it goes along, I wonder why this is?

as for the rest of the components, the bike wasn't washed much which thankfully lead to a layer of oily gunk protecting them from rust, there's still a fair amount of speckled surface rust so I will have to get them sorted

this is my first bike restoration so I would love some advice from those who have done it before,

 

[t47b]

Re:

Threads stretch under tension so cotter pins usually develop 'waists'. Future tip put two nuts on the cotter pin and hit the outer nut with a large hammer this shock will free it up and protect the threads, but I guess one always uses a new cotter pin anyway as they are easy to get hold of

 

[Midlife]

Has something physically broken on the frame!

The Corsair sometimes had the frame number on the seat tube running vertically down from the seat clamp bolt. Is there a number on it anywhere.....bottom bracket rear dropout?

Once you start to involve frame builders the costs can start to get eye watering.

Shaun