Help me identify a Carlton...

[Theeb]

Hi all.
I've had this Carlton frame for a while and have had not managed to get much information together on it. Chrome lugs, but not fully chromed. Chromovelato head tube. Unusual head badge (home made?). It was suggested this is an International, but I can't find anything similar. Any help appreciated.
Ta!

 

[bagpuss]

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I think it is a 1950's Flyer model ....Mike will be along to tell me I am wrong

more here.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=carlto ... 2Fwww.cycl

This should help on the VCC web page.
http://veterancycleclublibrary.org.uk/n ... %20Library).pdf

loads more on the site .Super information .
http://veterancycleclublibrary.org.uk/l ... 2&items=96

 

[OldTel]

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Hi, lovely frame, my money would be on early 50's Carlton Special Race model. Thanks Terry

 

[Theeb]

Thanks both. The VCC stuff is invaluable. Amazing the number of options available to a prospective buyer. No truly 'off the peg' frames at all! Definitely early 50s at least then. I'll check out the frame number tomorrow...

 

[Spokesmann]

Gorgeous frame certainly early 50s.

Possibly a Franco Italia, the set up if very similar to the Carlton massed Start of the era. Those letters on the headstock were hand cut, probably by Bob Kealing. They were also used on the Jewel model.

 

[Spokesmann]

Fork bridges seems to vary...

 

[OldTel]

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Hi, just dug out some old photo's of a special race I sold years and years ago, and it certain is close to your frame https://www.flickr.com/photos/tk_photos ... 8660693997. My old frame had the original Carlton seat decal, which has the model name in, I seem to think it was 1950 - 51, I hope this helps. Terry

 

[bagpuss]

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A massed start frame I owned a few years ago .
Carlton Franco Italia 1952/3 by rebalrid, on Flickr

Carlton,Franco Italia Circa 1952/3 by rebalrid, on Flickr

Makes me wonder just how many different lug designs Carlton did back then.

 

[Midlife]

Back then they would modify catalogue frames to your specifications

Shaun

 

[pigman]

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A massed start frame I owned a few years ago .
Carlton Franco Italia 1952/3 by rebalrid, on Flickr

Carlton,Franco Italia Circa 1952/3 by rebalrid, on Flickr

Makes me wonder just how many different lug designs Carlton did back then.

were the braze on lever bosses original, or fitted later?