Help Is this frame a Carlton Elswick or a Claud Butler s2462

[negaultra7]

Hi there ive just bought a lovely frame which i would like some advice on please,
It has s2462 stamped on the steerer and lefthand dropout, also has Campagnolo rear dropouts,
Ive tried to upload some pictures and failed as they are all to big,
so if you could copy and paste the link into your toolbar you should be able to view them via my Flickr account

https://www.flickr.com/photos/156191830@N03/

Any advise would be great

Neil

 

[negaultra7]

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Does anybody think the frame might be a Claud Butler Challenge?

Or im thinking a Carlton Constellation or Catalina

Im confused

Help lol

 

[Midlife]

Re: Help!! Is this frame a Carlton or a Claud Butler? s2462

There were loads of frames kicking about like this in the 70's and early 80's. Not a Raleigh/Carlton and I don't recognise it as as CB.

No mudguard eyes and nice shore lines mean it's a nice frame

 

[negaultra7]

Re: Help!! Is this frame a Carlton or a Claud Butler? s2462

There were loads of frames kicking about like this in the 70's and early 80's. Not a Raleigh/Carlton and I don't recognise it as as CB.

No mudguard eyes and nice shore lines mean it's a nice frame

Been in touch with @classicCycles on Twitter, he thinks it maybe a Elswick?
do you haye any idea of the year?

Neil

 

[negaultra7]

Re: Help!! Is this frame a Carlton or a Claud Butler? s2462

There were loads of frames kicking about like this in the 70's and early 80's. Not a Raleigh/Carlton and I don't recognise it as as CB.

No mudguard eyes and nice shore lines mean it's a nice frame

Do you think it maybe a Elswick?

 

[Midlife]

Doesn't reminder of an Elswick, by then the Elswick range was below the Falcon range so was a bit low rent. Your frame is much better

 

[negaultra7]

Doesn't reminder of an Elswick, by then the Elswick range was below the Falcon range so was a bit low rent. Your frame is much better

Thanks for the nice comment, do you have any idea what make it might be, or where I could look to try and link the serial number?

Am I right in thinking it is from the 70's?

cheers
Neil

 

[Midlife]

Yep, 70's to about 1983 and then basically frames had the cables running under the bottom bracket, if it has Allen key brakes then it's towards the later date.

I'll have a think about Mike Kowal, it could become of his?

 

[negaultra7]

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The bike is now up for auction on Ebay:

Restored Classic Vintage Retro Cycle S2462, 58cm Cinelli Stronglight Campagnolo