Fat Chance Ti 😳

[M-Power]

Are the 97 bikes especially special?
Admittedly all Fat Ti’s are pretty sweet, but what’s especially sweet about he 97 frames?

From what I have seen years 96 and earlier are ‘normally’ mono rear stay design. Also lovely to ride but a bit stiffer race bike like. The 97 has a rear canti arch which ‘normally’ 98/99 Tis dont as they are purely for V brake designs. This gives you brake choice options and makes the rear triangle on a 97 Ti a tad stiffer.

 

[M-Power]

 

[d8mok]

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I can’t disagree but I think the point people are getting at is that the price is crazy. No doubt it’s a special bike but you’ll be needing to adjust your expectations if you actually want to sell it.

How are you breaking down each components value in the current market?

 

[M-Power]

I can’t disagree but I think the point people are getting at is that the price is crazy. No doubt it’s a special bike but you’ll be needing to adjust your expectations if you actually want to sell it.

How are you breaking down each components value in the current market?

The price of a Rolex is crazy to most but plenty of people want and can afford it. The build is the best of the best NO COMPROMISES. When its all added up it ( and I have ) it would cost a lot more than I am asking and that doesn't factor in labour build cost or 10+ years of countless hours finding all the parts - all costed at Zero I get its a hobby and the price all totted up gets people sucking in air, huffing and puffing. You can pick up a cheap Russian or Far East Ti frame and load it with LX ride the hell out of it and be happy.

Like I say, find me another the same ( no frame dents ) condition cheaper. If I have to split no problems with that either the parts work on high end builds and many are almost impossible to find. Sometimes higher value things sell better on the bay than here. As we all know 5-10years ago RB was awash with serious buyers.

Challenge for you - find me cheap a FAT Ti 97 m/l ‘no dents’, a Morati Ti 26” canti boss Ti fork long steerer, a matched mint low miles set of CK Classic hubs in unfaded turquoise shimano cassette, Moots 130mm mid rise Ti stem and Moots Ti riser bar ?

If you prefer, I have listed the build components in the listing ( less the £££ chain ) , price it all up in mint/NOS cond shipped to the UK with links to current availability.

 

[Tsundere]

Ultimately any item is only worth whatever someone is prepared to pay for it. Sellers are entitled to place any asking price on an item.

There are many people in the world for whom 12k is small change, whether or not one of them is looking for a bike like this is an unknown. If such a buyer exists then this bike will sell at or close to the asking price. If that buyer doesn't exist then it won't.

It really doesn't affect anyone else. Not sure why people get so emotional about these things. It's not like this is a beloved classic with original spec that was bought for peanuts and is being parted out at unrealistic prices. That behaviour which is not uncommon sticks in any enthusiasts craw.

This is nothing like that, lovingly assembled with a unique collection of rare exotic parts, much time, money, energy, research and no doubt stress spent bringing it together. I hope it sells and stays together and that the seller gets rewarded for his efforts.

 

[benjabbi]

It's a beautiful bike. One persons dream build is not necessarily anothers though. As much as it would be nice to keep it together it's much more likely to sell as bits. Although I very much doubt you'd hit 10k for them all in the current climate.

 

[benjabbi]

Also, it's good to remember that what you paid has no bearing whatsoever on what it's now worth. It's literally just what you were willing to spend at the time.

 

[d8mok]

The price of a Rolex is crazy to most but plenty of people want and can afford it. The build is the best of the best NO COMPROMISES. When its all added up it ( and I have ) it would cost a lot more than I am asking and that doesn't factor in labour build cost or 10+ years of countless hours finding all the parts - all costed at Zero I get its a hobby and the price all totted up gets people sucking in air, huffing and puffing. You can pick up a cheap Russian or Far East Ti frame and load it with LX ride the hell out of it and be happy.

Like I say, find me another the same ( no frame dents ) condition cheaper. If I have to split no problems with that either the parts work on high end builds and many are almost impossible to find. Sometimes higher value things sell better on the bay than here. As we all know 5-10years ago RB was awash with serious buyers.

Challenge for you - find me cheap a FAT Ti 97 m/l ‘no dents’, a Morati Ti 26” canti boss Ti fork long steerer, a matched mint low miles set of CK Classic hubs in unfaded turquoise shimano cassette, Moots 130mm mid rise Ti stem and Moots Ti riser bar ?

If you prefer, I have listed the build components in the listing ( less the £££ chain ) , price it all up in mint/NOS cond shipped to the UK with links to current availability.

Rolex is relatively cheap in the luxury watch world.

People spend £10k on bikes. I’ve got a couple of £10k+ bikes but it’s very rare people will spend that amount on a retrobike however strong the nostalgia.

But I still struggle to see £10k or 11.3k this bike unfortunately however rare the parts are. Could you provide a breakdown of what you think the parts are worth ?

I could pick a few of my bikes and say “find me this” and nobody could simply because stuff just isn’t around. Doesn’t mean they are worth 4x their value.


Obviously a lovely bike and I do hope it finds a new home. I will be watching it for sure to see when it sells

 

[d8mok]

Just spoke to @iveto1983 and he does indeed have a Fat Chance Ti.

Pointed him in this threads direction.

 

[iveto1983]

Yep, still have mine but it’s a size M, 1995 model with the wishbone seat stays.

Old pic but the build is almost the same. From memory just the command shifters are now m900 pods on shift ease repros.