Fat Chance Kickstarter

WWC":1qpdql11 said:
shogun":1qpdql11 said:
If I'm honest the only thing I'd want to buy off a bike company aiming to replicate it's old marketing aura is a replica of it's old bikes. I would consider buying a brand new early 90s Yo at a cost of thousands, vs an iffy modern style-alike born out of a survey.

Interesting shout.

Though there are a lot of ‘golden age’ fat frames about for considerably less even if you factor in a re-spray.

Surely it’d be cooler to own a period frame rather than a copy?

60’s e-type vs. an exact replica from 2015? If the 2015 replica had modern up-grades it’d be better in some ways but then it wouldn’t an exact replica.

I.e. it would be the equivalent of what he’s doing with the new Yo.

If you want the best of both worlds there was even a NOS medium Yo on Fatcogs for $999. That’s nearly a grand less than the new version and ticks every other box.


The NOS one would be great. Likelihood of such being available regularly? Nil.

It's not a retro-tech version of the old one at all, I don't think that comparo works.
It is like BMW putting a white roof and some spotlights on a new mini and marketing it with the 60s Italian Job film, or Monte Carlo rally success with the BMC works team... It's a new vehicle and has nothing in common with the old one bar styling cues, but they want to use the images of the past to propel current sales and personally, I don't go in for that. If I were to want a modern Yo, I'd want a thoroughly modern Yo designed by people with up to the minute experience and marketed on it's merits.

I presume they won't be $2.5k when in series production or the company will fall over right quick.
 
shogun":171ffg3x said:
WWC":171ffg3x said:
shogun":171ffg3x said:
If I'm honest the only thing I'd want to buy off a bike company aiming to replicate it's old marketing aura is a replica of it's old bikes. I would consider buying a brand new early 90s Yo at a cost of thousands, vs an iffy modern style-alike born out of a survey.

Interesting shout.

Though there are a lot of ‘golden age’ fat frames about for considerably less even if you factor in a re-spray.

Surely it’d be cooler to own a period frame rather than a copy?

60’s e-type vs. an exact replica from 2015? If the 2015 replica had modern up-grades it’d be better in some ways but then it wouldn’t an exact replica.

I.e. it would be the equivalent of what he’s doing with the new Yo.

If you want the best of both worlds there was even a NOS medium Yo on Fatcogs for $999. That’s nearly a grand less than the new version and ticks every other box.


The NOS one would be great. Likelihood of such being available regularly? Nil.

It's not a retro-tech version of the old one at all, I don't think that comparo works.
It is like BMW putting a white roof and some spotlights on a new mini and marketing it with the 60s Italian Job film, or Monte Carlo rally success with the BMC works team... It's a new vehicle and has nothing in common with the old one bar styling cues, but they want to use the images of the past to propel current sales and personally, I don't go in for that. If I were to want a modern Yo, I'd want a thoroughly modern Yo designed by people with up to the minute experience and marketed on it's merits.

I presume they won't be $2.5k when in series production or the company will fall over right quick.

Using that logic then anything other then the original, built at the original factory can't be classed as a Yo. Would it make a difference if FC hadn't folded and this new bike was just the current version of the Yo?
 
It probably would make a difference, because there wouldn't have been a close to 20 year lapse in development progression.
 
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Ha!

This is getting beautifully complex if we’re debating the true meaning of ‘Yo-ness’!

Technically anything made by an entity legally licenced by the owner of the brand/model etc (or something along those lines as I’m not a lawyer!) would be a Yo.

So absolutely this is a Yo because Chris owns the brand/model etc. Add that to the fact he was the main man BITD so if he can’t make a new Yo who can?

Whether or not you can define the meaning of ‘Yo-ness’ beyond that is another question…
 
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WWC":589pz2qh said:
ez054098":589pz2qh said:
All I know is I am excited to get one.

Signed up have you?

That'll be a build thread I can't wait to see!

2.5k pack?

Nah, went for the 5k and the rigid fork. Like I said, my last "new" bike was in 2008. :)
 
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Wow!

If it's not too much trouble I think a few of user lesser fat fans would appreciate a blow by blow of the process...choosing from colour options etc...
 
shogun":1cphxk6z said:
It probably would make a difference, because there wouldn't have been a close to 20 year lapse in development progression.

It'll be designed and made by the original bloke to current 'fashionable' spec. It's what it would have been had it been 'development' for 20 years.
 
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