Electronic cigarettes

[silverclaws]

Oh yeah, I forgot the NLP I tried to quit with, that didn't work either because I worked it out.

But yeah, trying replace something you know is something with something else doesn't work in my mind either, if I could I could sort all my crap out.

 

[highlandsflyer]

I used to take nicotine tablets when I was studying, being poor I had to work all hours as well as hitting the books.

Just don't have the addiction gene, no matter what it is I can leave it when it is doing me no good.

Smoking is a real barb hook in the sphincter, I feel for anyone dealing with it.

Most of those I know have found their way out of it, but it has taken various approaches to find a way.

Giving up dope shows you have a will, and that augers well for the general smoking too.

 

[silverclaws]

The best way of course is if those that allow such a dangerous drug to be sold and used by the British public just banned it outright, can't buy it everyone quits and yeah it will be a stressy few days but everyone will get over it and the poor NHS won't be burdened by smokers anymore. But the mealy mouthed conniving government won't do that will they, as there is too much money in it, money before health.

 

[feetabix]

i'm reading with interest boys......i smoke ciggarettes, i dont like it and know i should give up.....its engrained in my life, and must go....i guess im a little scared of the process though....

 

[dyna-ti]

The best way of course is if those that allow such a dangerous drug to be sold and used by the British public just banned it outright, can't buy it everyone quits and yeah it will be a stressy few days but everyone will get over it and the poor NHS won't be burdened by smokers anymore. But the mealy mouthed conniving government won't do that will they, as there is too much money in it, money before health.

The hypocrisy of it really fukcs me off :evil:

 

[silverclaws]

Oh and I think I have worked out what causes an ex smoker nazi, you know those ex smokers who are the noisiest anti smoking zealots. It is because once having been a smoker, it never really leaves you, smoking changes something in your psyche which for some is the reason they go back to it, other have to repel the thought by being well, obnoxious to smokers. But I take no crap from ex smokers because the clue is in the description ; smokers, meaning they have annoyed others when they were smokers themselves.

But I worked something out, I like the smell of smoking, but not the taste these days, meaning they taste totally different to the smell.

 

[Magsy]

Yea I love ex-smokers, especially the ones who still take a smoking break for 'fresh air' and then stand two fecking feet away from me.

I know a few people who used them, worked for some. Did seem though that if you are trying it you need to jump in and spend a bit of money, ie £50+ because the cheaper ones just don't provide the hit you will be looking for.
The folks I know say that after while with a really decent one it has the same enjoyment factor almost but importantly providing the deep back of the throat feeling.

Personally I don't care about the nicotine addiction, I just don't want the death. The government(s) can't really push it but I feel the 'leccy fags could solve a ton of problems, its crazy with all this tech we have nobody can make a 'safe' fag because fulfilling a nicotine habit is taboo.

 

[azaro]

I gave up a 20 a day habit about 14 years ago.
Tried to stop several times, but most of the lads I hung around with smoked and you could smoke in pubs then.
It was then banned at work, and I managed to stop during the week, only to lapse again when I went to the pub at the weekend.
I had a beer and fancied a smoke.

I then read something about alcohol and nicotine setting off the same receptors in your brain - your brain registers alcohol and craves nicotine.
I therefore made the decision not to go to the pub for a while - blow to the social life, but saved me a fortune. After about 6 weeks I'd cracked it. Went to the pub and resisted the craving and realised I'd done it! No patches, no gum, more money in the bank and also weight loss from less ale!

I would say set yourself a goal and promise yourself a treat - put aside the money you would have spent on tobacco/given to the government and when you have finally defeated the craving, buy yourself something nice!

 

[chambo34]

Get a life and quit, I did it in 92 after going 14 hours a day on site where you couldn't smoke, decided if I could go 14 hours I could go all day and did, had the odd one or two for a few years but none for at least the last 15.
I like most gave up with will power as there was little if no help then...I have had several mates who have quit with the NHS stop smoking services and all have had good things to say about the services./
Despite all the crap you read here's the truth, smokers will try any easy way out and when it fails (because they didn't really want to quit or didn't use the product properly) they will say it's crap or didn't work...some time you have to man up and admit you can't quit cos your weak willed (at that time!) eventually you will be able to quit if you really want to.
Yes the addiction is great, but you can do it, it is your first addiction and being as most smokers start around age 13-15 it becomes part of you, it makes it easier to become addicted to other things also, in effect it trains your brain to become more easily addicted to addictive 'drugs' and behaviours.

Hypnosis is a load of crap and doesn't work if it did the NHS in their ever continuining role to save costs would use it wholesale as it would save a fortune on NRT products, E-cigs appear to work but are not as yet proved to be safe they only give you nicotine so do stop you inhaling the 4000 chemicals which are the things that cause all the nasty stuff...however the E cig systems where you drip nicotine liquid into the appliance can leave you with a higher nicotine dependencey than what you started with.

Can you really afford to keep smoking soon it will be £10.00 a 20 deck, your health WILL get worse, keeping fit cycling, eating healthy WILL NOT stave of the effects of smoking, 1 in 2 smokers WILL die through their habit....having lost my grandparents and father to smoking related disease, COPD and lung/multiple cancers in the last 10 years or so I am glad I quit though I am not daft enough to think I'll definately escape future problems.

If you defo wanna quit but are struggling go to your local cancer hospital/ward read some stuff on the ASH website etc, think about watching your kids grow up, playing with your grandchildren cycling into old age etc, we all know we gotta die of something but not just yet...out of interest my sons scholl mate died 18 months ago from lung cancer at 23!

 

[dyna-ti]

I smoke tobacco which costs me roughly £10 per week so there isnt that great a saving compared to my ex weed habit[which is enough to buy a brand new car after 18 months to 2 years :shock: ]

I need to drop the smoking to improve my lungs and make it easier for me to rebuild muscle mass after me accident.

Personally i think even an increased nicotine habit is preferable to taking in the tar and other toxins,but lets face it for a cyclist its the tar that does the majority of the damage :?