Do we need more than just Campag, Shimano & SRAM?
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Good question. Personally I would like to see less. There's just a phenomenal amount of bike tat out there to choose from as it is - old or new. Also need to remember Shimano (like Nikon and Canon) were / are good at flooding the market at the right time with the right price. It would be extremely difficult to compete with Shimano for the lower end stuff without having something really nasty.
I do find it incredible that Campag can actually stay operating by only producing road parts.
I do find it incredible that Campag can actually stay operating by only producing road parts.
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Having seen what Campagnolo came up with as their MTB I’m glad they dipped out
Their brake levers are probably the most hideous thing I’ve ever seen - glad they’ve stuck to what they are good at
Their brake levers are probably the most hideous thing I’ve ever seen - glad they’ve stuck to what they are good at
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Hope have a good share of the market in certain areas .I use their head sets and hubs on my three modern bikes .Also had their disc brakes on my mtb a few years back . I found them superb . Hope rim brakes stop our tandem in short order .
As for derailleurs so far they have left it to others .
As good range of components imho .
https://www.hopetech.com/product-documents/drivetrain/
Middleburn and High path are also providing excellent products .
I dream of a set of Royce Venus hubs for my Mercian .
Hope have a good share of the market in certain areas .I use their head sets and hubs on my three modern bikes .Also had their disc brakes on my mtb a few years back . I found them superb . Hope rim brakes stop our tandem in short order .
As for derailleurs so far they have left it to others .
As good range of components imho .
https://www.hopetech.com/product-documents/drivetrain/
Middleburn and High path are also providing excellent products .
I dream of a set of Royce Venus hubs for my Mercian .
Thanks all for your thoughts. You've given me some names that I've never heard of to explore.
@Woz: I'd like to see less tat too, but a greater choice - particularly of parts that offer a genuine advantage. If there's no advantage to be had, then I'd settle for less ugly, for example, handlebar stems for threadless forks are a mess. Compare with Cinelli Record.
@Peachy: Very nicely lit pic, but rivetted end plates???
@Woz: I'd like to see less tat too, but a greater choice - particularly of parts that offer a genuine advantage. If there's no advantage to be had, then I'd settle for less ugly, for example, handlebar stems for threadless forks are a mess. Compare with Cinelli Record.
@Peachy: Very nicely lit pic, but rivetted end plates???
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Rotor do a groupset somewhere out there
Campagnolo are on their last legs
Sunrace do a viable budget Shimano alternative
Microshift as mentioned.
Sachs had a good go at it before Sram swallowed them aalllllll
It was a bit of a shock to find that DNP used to do budget parts that didnt look too bad and worked ok
*DNP Campagnolo-esque MTB rear mech, Shimano copy front and yes, 8 speed thumbies
**The more I look at that mech and realise that its more like an older Suntour
Campagnolo are on their last legs
Sunrace do a viable budget Shimano alternative
Microshift as mentioned.
Sachs had a good go at it before Sram swallowed them aalllllll
It was a bit of a shock to find that DNP used to do budget parts that didnt look too bad and worked ok
*DNP Campagnolo-esque MTB rear mech, Shimano copy front and yes, 8 speed thumbies
**The more I look at that mech and realise that its more like an older Suntour
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As I get older, I look at some of the traditional stuff with nostalgia, but then I let my head rule my heart to say some of the modern stuff is actually quite good. When carbon frames arrived we all questioned their durability. 20 years on, I see frames with carbon rear triangles and forks and full carbon frames still in existence, being used daily.
Not to pick on the poster, but threadless stems were cited as being modern design failures. On the contrary, I see them as being far better. If I look at old Cinelli stems, a stem swap often meant a seized steerer and then removal of tape and levers (maybe cables too) be for what should be a 5 minute job, which it now is. The Cinelli 1A nose bolts either seized, rounded off or snapped and the 1R wedgy thingy was awkward. On top of this bars creaked like billy-o depending on how hot the weather was.
Probably not going to be a popular post on here, just trying to be objective
As I get older, I look at some of the traditional stuff with nostalgia, but then I let my head rule my heart to say some of the modern stuff is actually quite good. When carbon frames arrived we all questioned their durability. 20 years on, I see frames with carbon rear triangles and forks and full carbon frames still in existence, being used daily.
Not to pick on the poster, but threadless stems were cited as being modern design failures. On the contrary, I see them as being far better. If I look at old Cinelli stems, a stem swap often meant a seized steerer and then removal of tape and levers (maybe cables too) be for what should be a 5 minute job, which it now is. The Cinelli 1A nose bolts either seized, rounded off or snapped and the 1R wedgy thingy was awkward. On top of this bars creaked like billy-o depending on how hot the weather was.
Probably not going to be a popular post on here, just trying to be objective
