Thanks for that suggestion I’ll have a look around. The Dawes was the first choice only because I have a 21” as a doner and everything would swap straight over, probably have to splash out on new cables, Just like your top photo looking to build a roadster already have a nice pair of Ali north road bars to invert. Was also contemplating a 8spd Alfine Hub, not sue on that bit, got get the wife off her tank of a Pashley! Quite amusing with hindsight she said “really want one of those “ I said very heavy - bike now in garage I said “ you haven’t ridden your bike much recently “Too heavy “came the reply, I turned away, smiled but like any sensible married man , stayed silent