Dave Yates and Orange Prestige.....Both finished builds p.5

[Crantinope]

Both those bike look awesome, I would take either, love the take on the Orange
But, as you didn't use the perforated Turbo in the end :twisted: :twisted: (you know where i am )

 

[kona man]

wow loving both well worth the Wight . wow

very good job

 

[theredchili]

Great pair you have there

Love the paint job on the Yates, more subtle than the Orange.

Very good quality builds

congrats

 

[misteroo]

WOWOWOW...

I think the pink Pace forks just tips me towards the Orange....

:shock:

 

[sinnerman]

You see, i told you many moons ago that Pink was your inner colour, and clearly it is.

They both look amazing, but I am drawn to the Orange just slightly over the Yates, its just the colour that draws you in. Very sexy in a bike style.

Thanks for the compliment bud, :? , not sure if its my inner colour unless you are talking kinky....lol...lol.....lmao.

I was unsure which one you would prefer, but you cant change our history, i would have said you would have chosen the Orange if i was placing a bet though...

I still think after all the effort though it would be a better Retro bike for say...Emily Batty"s stable though......lmao.

 

[sinnerman]

I may have had a peek at the DY whilst it was at Graphic shack so was really looking forward to seeing that one built and it hasn't disappointed! Great bike, great paint, great spec! What's the stem on that, not heard of m.steel before?


I would be interested to see the colour of the Orange in the metal, I have always liked the purple colour and for my taste this is a bit pink but still an incredible job yet again!!!

Attention to detail is spot on (as usual!), and I particularly love the radially spoked Pace wheel at the front and minty fresh Orange control set.

Top job

Are you going to do a thread on comparing all your bikes? I think you need an Overbury's now

Garry told me you had a little peek at it.....

M.Steel.......In 1980 Geoff and Dave Yates founded M. Steel Lightweight Cycles Ltd to manufacture high quality custom frames at a factory unit in Wallsend.

However after reading a couple of reviews with ref to this model(Dave Yates), i was cautious in what i chose to use, angle and length had to be right, and this stem was, so had it painted to match the frame.

Thank you for your feedback......, i did write up some notes on the differences between the Dave LLoyd and Zinn, but after i wrote reams of it, i stopped and thought this is just going to bore people more than i do already so i stopped writing.......
Im not convinced people would read it, or that im qualified enough.., but i must say now that all these bikes are affordable, it is very interesting to find out first hand what the differences are, after all, im sure im not the only retrobike member that read Mbuk and all the other mags, and potentially were influenced by what the bike reviews and testers had to say.

As for the Overburys, watch this space..............

 

[Drewson]

M.Steel.......In 1980 Geoff and Dave Yates founded M. Steel Lightweight Cycles Ltd to manufacture high quality custom frames at a factory unit in Wallsend.

I take it you mean Geoff Waugh (who still runs M. Steel Cycles in Gosforth, Newcastle) & Dave Yates? I use M. Steel quite a lot, they're pretty good...

This is quite a collectable frame IMO as it's obviously an earlier Dave Yates as he was still with M. Steel and hadn't moved South to Lincolnshire or where ever he is now..... He might still have been working as a CDT teacher (or whatever it was) when he made this?? I assume he made the stem too but branded it as M. Steel...

PS. M. Steel refers to the original founders of the bike shop way before Waugh & Yates bought it......established 1894 so technically they didn't found/establish it at all Dave Yates sold his frames etc through the shop too....

Beautiful bikes by the way Prefer the Dave Yates personally...

 

[sinnerman]

M.Steel.......In 1980 Geoff and Dave Yates founded M. Steel Lightweight Cycles Ltd to manufacture high quality custom frames at a factory unit in Wallsend.

I take it you mean Geoff Waugh (who still runs M. Steel Cycles in Gosforth, Newcastle) & Dave Yates? I use M. Steel quite a lot, they're pretty good...

This is quite a collectable frame IMO as it's obviously an earlier Dave Yates as he was still with M. Steel and hadn't moved South to Lincolnshire or where ever he is now..... He might still have been working as a CDT teacher (or whatever it was) when he made this?? I assume he made the stem too but branded it as M. Steel...

PS. M. Steel refers to the original founders of the bike shop way before Waugh & Yates bought it......established 1894 so technically they didn't found/establish it at all Dave Yates sold his frames etc through the shop too....

Beautiful bikes by the way Prefer the Dave Yates personally...

your are spot on with all that info drewson, and what a stunning shop it is now too.

The frames a 92/93 model, god knows the age of the stem.

M. Steel HistoryThere has been an M. Steel in Gosforth since the late 1800's. For at least 80 of these years, the name has been associated with bicycles. The business was bought by Geoff Dobson in 1954 and he traded in various locations around Gosforth throughout the ensuing years. In 1980 Geoff and Dave Yates founded M. Steel Lightweight Cycles Ltd to manufacture high quality custom frames at a factory unit in Wallsend.

Joe Waugh joined the company very shortly after whilst at the height of his formidable powers as one of the best racing cyclists ever to come out of the North East. 1981 saw the purchase by the company of Geoff's shop in Salters Road, Gosforth to bring all the M. Steel named operations under the wing of the limited company, and in 1984 the business was moved to its present location in South Gosforth. During 1981 to 1982 Joe acted as a mobile test bed for the company products. Just before the World Championships in 1981 his No. 1 race bike was damaged. Due to go to Belgium with the Great Britain team for two weeks preparation he took a standard 531 frame from the shop and gave it a thorough testing on the Belgian pave (cobbles!). The same bike was also used as a spare at the "Worlds".

In 1997 the framebuilding unit moved from its location at Old Northumberland yard to a new site in two modern factory units on Point Pleasant Industrial Estate. The upheaval was huge but we managed to do it losing only a week of production.

The aim of the company was to produce frames of the highest quality. That we have succeeded can be judged by the fact that in 1988 we had no less than 11 National Champions in various areas of cycling, riding on frames of our manufacture and in 1989 we had our first full professional team equipped with Joe Waugh bikes. Since then our frames have featured regularly in national events with never less than two national champions in any year. Deb Murrell rode a frame of our manufacture at the Atlanta Olympic Games, and Harry Walker holds the current British 25 mile road record of 40 minutes 50 seconds on a low profile time trial frame built to his exclusive design.

Unfortunately in a rapidly changing market where aluminium has taken over as the material of choice for racing frames M. Steel Cycles ceased to build exquisite custom made steel frames in 2005. Nearly 11,000 riders have experienced the delights of an M Steel hand crafted frame since 1980.

 

[Drewson]

So you've checked (& copied) the history on the website then?

 

[ratcapa]

Well anyway, yet again fantastic build, this time with a twist and of two iconic bikes not one!!! You must have one for everyday of the month now!

They are both stunning but if I were to be picky (chance would be a fine thing) I would choose the prestige, I'm just not a fan of sky blue, not that I go around loving pink!! I think I'd actually prefer the Yates but the Prestige is just alive and looks "right" to me espcially with the forks and bars matching. Even so the paint is stunning on the Yates so hats off again to graphicshack, they like you really do know what to do with bikes.

I know you say you think you're not qualified to give your account of the two head to head but you're less likely to be influenced like some magazine reviewers by sweetners, more and bigger page adds, free kit and not stepping on the toes of their "friends" in the industry etc etc. So I think your opinion is more than valid as is anybody's on here as you own your bikes therefore if you use them, know them better than any.
Sorry for the rant

Great bikes Carl