scottrider":2ub1tn9v said:Just though id mention that if any body is considering useing them ion their bike or that of a loved ones u should first see this web page, there dangerous!!! http://pardo.net/bike/pic/fail-020/index.html lots of reports of really nasty accidents, they were badly made and designed apparently, ovoid like the plague!!!!!!! http://pardo.net/bike/pic/fail-020/index.html