Columbus Genius fillet brazed Italian frame with Ritchey dropouts

[DrDaveTampa]

And then there's this. This would not be all that difficult to do with powdercoat.

Makes the rest of the build easy. Shinier the better, I figure

 

[ibbz]

And then there's this. This would not be all that difficult to do with powdercoat.

Makes the rest of the build easy. Shinier the better, I figure

That looks sweet!
I presume the paint is translucent allowing the brazing to be seen??

 

[DrDaveTampa]

Either way. The red and green would be translucent top coats, just depends on whether I do a chrome base layer or just polish up the steel.

Problem with clear coat is, it may not start out as a ratbike but it'll become one quickly (and we live on the bay, so, very quickly)

In my mind, this can take off in one of three directions --

1. Annoying mini-doppleganger to the Mone La Roca. Bronze or root beer translucent topcoat with gunmetal-blue bits. I have some more or less period correct bontrager components I could use in that build, for at least one photo-op, although it'll very quickly grow some Renthal MX bars and EndlessBike singlespeed bits. Maybe (nay, certainly) slap some Barnacle forks on there. Heh! Sporting the biggest, nastiest Maxxis DHF I can cram in between em, and probably a disc brake to boot. Post that sucka up on /xbiking and call it a day
2. Source some FRM parts and make it pretty and possibly a worthwhile resto on some level. Post it up here and then be scared to ride it basically LOL. Tricolore color scheme but probably with a white base
3. I have a mid-level Shimano groupset on hand that's right-on-it period correct, I could polish that up and bling out the paint job. Good for riding down the bike path with the "ducati pout." Nice bike! Yes, I know. Chrome tricolore all the way; I want it to blind ya when the sun comes out. (My Harley is like that; there's no such thing as too much chrome IMO)

May come down to whether it comes with forks or not. If it's a complete, rare, vintage Italian frame I dunno that I want to make a habit out of bashing that thing through the phosphate mines, hurling it into alligator-infested ponds and whatnot. Probably deserves to be made pretty. If not, well then I got a light, supple frame for not much money that should be perfect for that kind of tomfoolery.

I imagine I'll do em all eventually, with an argument I think to start with #3 and maybe evolve toward #2 as I get my hands on parts. But, I'm only gonna have one chance to clearcoat a virgin frame, and that fact weighs heavily on me.

Look Ma! Copper Brake Lines! There's some steampunk for ya. Just need a big brass horn or two

 

[ibbz]

Either way. The red and green would be translucent top coats, just depends on whether I do a chrome base layer or just polish up the steel.

Problem with clear coat is, it may not start out as a ratbike but it'll become one quickly (and we live on the bay, so, very quickly)

In my mind, this can take off in one of three directions --

1. Annoying mini-doppleganger to the Mone La Roca. Bronze or root beer translucent topcoat with gunmetal-blue bits. I have some more or less period correct bontrager components I could use in that build, for at least one photo-op, although it'll very quickly grow some Renthal MX bars and EndlessBike singlespeed bits. Maybe (nay, certainly) slap some Barnacle forks on there. Heh! Sporting the biggest, nastiest Maxxis DHF I can cram in between em, and probably a disc brake to boot. Post that sucka up on /xbiking and call it a day
2. Source some FRM parts and make it pretty and possibly a worthwhile resto on some level. Post it up here and then be scared to ride it basically LOL. Tricolore color scheme but probably with a white base
3. I have a mid-level Shimano groupset on hand that's right-on-it period correct, I could polish that up and bling out the paint job. Good for riding down the bike path with the "ducati pout." Nice bike! Yes, I know. Chrome tricolore all the way; I want it to blind ya when the sun comes out. (My Harley is like that; there's no such thing as too much chrome IMO)

May come down to whether it comes with forks or not. If it's a complete, rare, vintage Italian frame I dunno that I want to make a habit out of bashing that thing through the phosphate mines, hurling it into alligator-infested ponds and whatnot. Probably deserves to be made pretty. If not, well then I got a light, supple frame for not much money that should be perfect for that kind of tomfoolery.

I imagine I'll do em all eventually, with an argument I think to start with #3 and maybe evolve toward #2 as I get my hands on parts. But, I'm only gonna have one chance to clearcoat a virgin frame, and that fact weighs heavily on me.

Look Ma! Copper Brake Lines! There's some steampunk for ya. Just need a big brass horn or two

Sorry about the late reply !
Man, whatever you decide to do it’s going to be a cracker - I’m itching to see a build thread started!!
Makes sense to - after the paint job - (and all the ideas you mentioned are damn cool! The Mone la Roca is a thing of beauty ! The ) #3 and gravitate towards #2. If you don’t mind spending the cash -
Had the frame arrived?

 

[DrDaveTampa]

Shipped, expected arrival in Feb, I'll update soon as it gets here

Radavist had a thing or two to say about clear coat over raw... Yeah I think #3 -> #2 may be the call

 

[DrDaveTampa]

Frame is here, am headed out to look at it. Won't be able to mess with it for a couple of weeks due to work sched so if anybody has any questions or needs measurements or stuff let me know

 

[DrDaveTampa]

Headtube 85x30mm
Seat tube 27.2
Spacing 135
Chainstay 419mm
Seat tube (center-top) 17 1/2 inches

No fork

Mostly shiny, a bit of surface corrosion especially around the cable guides.

I don't have a scale but it feels SUPER light

BB is 68mm, interestingly

Looks like they used silver solder, not brass.

Nice frame...

 

[DrDaveTampa]

More pics. Seller is out till end of jan

 

[ibbz]

More pics. Seller is out till end of jan

That’s lovely !!!
Congratulations !!!!
I’m so looking forward to the build thread - and especially the finish you’ll decide on

 

[DrDaveTampa]

Hello, very glad that you like it. I think these frames were supposed to be built both with rigid or suspension forks; consider that the suspensions of the time had a very low gap like max 10cm
In case of rigid forks the FRM frames usually got a Ritchey Logic steel fork, we don't have any at the moment sorry but they re not difficult to find
I wish you a very happy new year!
Francesco